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Why don't they do classic nativities any more?

122 replies

SnuggleBuggleBoo · 05/12/2023 19:42

Why do they feel the need to be 'clever', having it told from the point of view of aliens or whatever, with 'original' songs? What's wrong with just the plain old traditional story and well known carols? I just think it's a shame.

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Nicesalad · 05/12/2023 19:46

Yes it is a shame. I think it all started because people were "fed up" of the same story every year. But that was a long time ago now!

WashItTomorrow · 05/12/2023 19:48

Who’s “they”? Churches and Sunday schools will often do a traditional one.
Schools less so. My DC’s primary never did one.

blimmy · 05/12/2023 19:50

It's not necessarily new - my youngest child is 17 and my eldest nearly 24, and their school always did a quirky 'Out Of The Ark' nativity such as 'Christmas with the Aliens' or 'a Midwife Crisis '. So it's been since at least 2004 they've been doing non-traditional ones, probably longer.
I think they were far more entertaining than the nativities I did at school in the 80s. To this day I can remember the words of the songs my kids sang - whereas the only one I remember from my childhood was Little Donkey!

HeyDiggity · 05/12/2023 19:50

I don’t think primary schools have done traditional nativities for a good 30 years. I certainly didn’t at school in the 80’s! Mostly because it’s really boring.

blimmy · 05/12/2023 19:52

But I agree with PP who says churches do a more traditional nativity. Our church does one on Christmas Eve that is a simple re-telling of the story accompanied by carols. It's less fun but much more moving than the school ones.

runwithme · 05/12/2023 19:52

If they still tell the story of the nativity, what's the issue?

Kitkat1523 · 05/12/2023 19:53

It’s been like this since my kids were small and my oldest is 32….think it’s because it’s too boring

TeenDivided · 05/12/2023 19:56

Partly maybe because they can include more speaking parts with modern plays? There aren't that many in a traditional nativity.

toastofthetown · 05/12/2023 19:57

I'm in my thirties and have never been in a nativity in my life, traditional or otherwise. I've been a bunny, Queen Victoria, a hippy, a pirate, recited The Highwayman, and one year we sang We're All Going on a Summer Holiday for our primary Christmas shows. Apparently our headmistress didn't like a nativity.

PurpleBugz · 05/12/2023 19:57

Churches still do traditional ones. My kids school doesn't do one at all. I think that's preferable to changing a religious story to be 'more entertaining'. Do a winter play instead with aliens or whatever that would be fine

Awumminnscotland · 05/12/2023 19:57

Traditional nativity at my wee one's school. They seem to recycle the costumes each year.

SiennaMillar · 05/12/2023 19:58

We did a traditional one, 1999, I was an angel 😊

CaptainMyCaptain · 05/12/2023 20:00

HeyDiggity · 05/12/2023 19:50

I don’t think primary schools have done traditional nativities for a good 30 years. I certainly didn’t at school in the 80’s! Mostly because it’s really boring.

I always did one until I retired 9 years ago.

Honolululu · 05/12/2023 20:02

What songs do you do for a traudipnal nativity other than Little Donkey and Away in a Manger? Silent Night is hard for 4 year olds. My child's school does a fairly traditional one but with some other modern songs. Where I teach, there's more than one year group per class so you need to do a different one or children are repeating the same thing.

CaptainMyCaptain · 05/12/2023 20:05

The Virgin Mary had a baby boy.
We will rock you (not the Queen version)
See him lying in a bed of straw

StrawberryWater · 05/12/2023 20:05

My son had a traditional nativity when he was in reception (he was Joseph) but since then they've done an all school concert thing and it's a bloody mess.

All year groups sit on the stage at the same time and each class does a carol or a performance piece but before and after they're just sitting around doing nothing.

Everybody hates it, the kids get bored (especially the younger ones) and it looks awful.

I prefer the traditional nativities. When I was in school in the 90s we did ours in the local town hall it was great. I was in the choir.

TotalAbsenceOfImperialRaiment · 05/12/2023 20:05

Because most parents want their child to have a speaking role and there aren't enough characters in a 'traditional' nativity.

justasking111 · 05/12/2023 20:07

Reception this morning did a traditional one. Years one and two did the alien one this afternoon.

The trouble with a traditional Nativity is that there is only one speaking part for a little girl. So unless you're happy to be an angel every year it's nice to see more speaking parts

NeverTrustAPoliceman · 05/12/2023 20:08

I went to a rather alternative school in the 60s. We did a play about woodland animals instead of a nativity one year.

Another year we did a play set in a toyshop. If I remember correctly the toys discussed who Father Christmas was going to take away.

Sunsept · 05/12/2023 20:10

I loved watching my DDs in the modern versions - all kids got a part with a chance to ‘feature’ and the songs were fun. A particular favourite was Wriggly Nativity!

Caffeineislife · 05/12/2023 20:14

There are a few factors that are considered- more secular, more fun, more interesting songs, costuming demands, parts, teachers fancy a change, parent competition (a cohort of very pushy parents can cause carnage with a traditional nativity).

One big sway our school had was the fact most of them have extra parts. The traditional nativity story has limited parts (unless you are including a huge flock of sheep, horses for the wise men, lots of inn keepers, choirs of angels). The more quirky ones tend to have more parts and more diversity of roles and speaking parts - some have a better spread of parts and less "main" parts with more speaking parts (essential if you have a very pushy parent cohort). Many schools are 2 form if not larger and usually it is 1 xmas show per year group so you are looking at 50-60 kids all needing parts.

Nativity rehearsals go on for ages and it can get very dull for everyone. The quirky ones do tend to have a bit more action for more participants in them and better songs (often with actions for everyone to do). Costuming is also important to consider, alongside the parent participation levels (and competition) at the school. Some quirkier ones don't need a lot of costumes making or are simple to put together with everyday clothes. Costuming can be a headache, you always get the sewing bee competitors, the amazon buyers, the ones who forget, the working mums cobbling things together best they can on limited time, the hand me down/ across costumes that have been through 6 kids and 3 different schools and my personal favourite - Ive made my child a made to measure Mary/ Joseph costume so they can play Mary/ Joseph (child is actually a sheep in the play). Someone is always upset.

Although biggest reason for less traditional nativity ime is parts, enjoyment for the children and fancying a change.

Sparehair · 05/12/2023 20:16

My dc's school went

  • Reception: nativity
  • Year 1: 12 days of christmas
  • Year 2: Christmas Carol
  • Year 3: No Christmas show- Chinese New Year show (we were at a British school in Asia)
  • Year 4: onwards: no Christmas or CNY show- optional musical etc as an ECA

Worked well.

LaviniasBigBloomers · 05/12/2023 20:16

Sunsept · 05/12/2023 20:10

I loved watching my DDs in the modern versions - all kids got a part with a chance to ‘feature’ and the songs were fun. A particular favourite was Wriggly Nativity!

I was just about to post this! 'Sometimes you've just got to move, it's a wriggly nativity'. Oh those were the days...

HeddaGarbled · 05/12/2023 20:18

More scope for smashing the gender stereotypes?

Sotiredmjmmy · 05/12/2023 20:20

Some schools still do, ours is a very normal typical village primary school.

Traditional nativity in reception

Infants do a slightly jazzed up nativity themed play

Juniors and up do less traditional Christmas plays, but they will have done nativity, Christmas story ones in their younger years in the school, they aren’t going to want to do the same each year as they move through the school

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