Icing made me violently ill, can I still eat the cake?

[Iamnotalemming]

DM very sweetly made me a special gluten free Christmas cake this year. She made Royal icing with raw egg white on boxing day, she and I and DC had some that afternoon. Boxing day night DM and I both violently ill, just feeling better today. DC only had cake, not icing, and no-one else had the cake so am confident icing is culprit.

Question is now what to do with cake. DM says just take off the icing, cake fine dont waste it. DH says 'are you mad just chuck it and the panettone in the same tupperware, it's all contaminated'. I am veering towards chucking but feeling guilty. WWYD?

Only if red lion stamped and shop bought- think there is some risk from home kept hens as farmed ones are vaccinated

Bin it. Buy Christmas cake on sale if you want to eat one

Even stamped eggs can carry listeria, cooking the eggs kills it.

Bin. Lie to your mother if necessary.

Gosh, much more likely to be a virus.

If eggs are off, they stink- you wouldn't miss it.

If it was salmonella you'd still be ill.

I doubt DM and I both had a virus at exact same time because we haven't seen each other for a couple of weeks, we live few hours' drive apart (sorry for drip feed). So has to be something we ate, and icing was only thing noone else had.

@Martialisthebestpup I am hoping DM won't mention and have told DH to not bring it up. He is incredulous but has agreed. I know it probably sounds ridiculous but it has been a difficult year for DM and I know she'll be upset about it going in bin (despite also being sick herself!).

Realistically you're not going to eat it though are you? So it might as well go in the bin. She doesn't need to know that though (so if she's still around then I guess what until she leaves to bin it!).

When I had food poisoning I went to the GP about 6 days after the worst day as I was still having severe stomach pain. I had to provide a sample and it was confirmed as campylobacter, I got it in Turkey. Salmonella can also be confirmed via sample. Anyway the doctor said pains could continue for a few weeks! Hope you are OK.

The incubation time for salmonella is 8-72hrs
The symptoms usually last between 2-5days
The symptoms include D&V , chills, fever, abdominal pains, nausea as well as dehydration and headache

I wouldn't have thought raw egg white or icing would have made you this ill tbh. Are you sure it wasn't anything else?

Can you really get ill from icing?

I agree - far more likely to be a virus.

There's a lot of it about. It is entirely possible you have both caught it independently of each other.

@Iamnotalemming I was really violently ill last week..Suspected Norovirus. 13.5 hrs of utter misery.

If it strikes hard and violently and fast..Likely a gastroenteritis, not salmonella.
You would still be ill if salmonella.

I have had Norovirus when DC haven't..and vice versa.

Bin

Your DM should NEVER use raw egg from her hens EVER. Mostly because she most probably hasn’t vaccinated them against salmonella.

Next time, if she wants to make royal icing, she should buy a carton of pasteurised egg whites.

Not all bad eggs smell. Only the really, really off ones smell bad.

When we stayed with my parents a couple of months ago on 1 occasion they fed us rancid crisps that they'd put in the oven as they were stale and then gave to us. On another occasion my mum decided to microwave a peach and then give it to us, but luckily I saw it was mouldy before anyone could eat it. I feel their intention of not wasting food is too extreme and I would suggest that is the case here too.

If DC had cake and were not ill then they're the control and I would eat the cake...but I do have a Homer Simpson attitude toward such things.

omg.

seriously you need to chuck it

If you got violently ill from icing then you’d be unable to even hear a story about a cake.

I like @2reefsin30knots got sick off of a veggie pizza. I couldn’t imagine even messing with pizza for months.

I also got noro and the food I had right before was something I couldn’t touch for many moons.

Food wasting is bad but this is just ridiculous! You don’t need to eat this cake just like you don’t need to eat every bite on your plate. Sometimes you don’t need to eat that treat. This is one of those times.

Throw it out ffs!!

What? Why would you risk this for a piece of cake?

It does seem a little dramatic to throw away the entire cake as realistically, and scientifically, the egg is very unlikely to have been the cause of your D&V even though you both ate it, BUT it will make DH happier to know you have binned anything that came anywhere it, and you are the one that has to live with him, so I suggest you do so. I also suggest you don't mention the rather OTT reaction to your DM for the sake of her pride (and her opinion of your OH). Get him to buy you a factory-cooked cake to make you feel better.

It does seem a little dramatic to throw away the entire cake as realistically, and scientifically, the egg is very unlikely to have been the cause of your D&V even though you both ate it

Actually, realistically and scientifically it is very likely the raw egg in the icing did cause the D&V as the egg came from an unvaccinated home reared hen. The risk goes astronomical if the DM is feeding these hens dried mealworms…