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Groundhog Christmas - will it ever end?

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NotAnotherParkingFine · 14/11/2018 19:49

Feeling very down about Christmas day and just want to vent, so please bear with me. Background is I have hosted Christmas for between 9 and 12 family members for the past 25 years. This began when our youngest was 2 and we wanted to start our own family tradition rather than spend the day travelling to family. I didn't mind the effort because I was young, had a lot more energy and our DC loved having big family Christmases.

Apart from me, DH and our 2 DC, guests include; inlaws (we have a cordial but not close relationship,) my DM and her dickhead husband, my alcoholic sister who's usually pissed before she arrives, our son's partner and occasionally a niece and/or my brother will make an appearance. None of the older guests like each other but they all dote on the DC so call a truce for the day, like the soldiers playing football with the Germans on Christmas day during WWI.

I have to cater for 2 x vegetarians, 2 x steak rather than turkey, 1 x eats turkey but the stuffing and pigs in blankets can't have touched anything on the plate (making cooking/serving a pain and just something else to have to think about).

Last year we did full Christmas dinner in November as DS and his partner were going travelling. After the meal a few people said "what are you doing Christmas Day?", and I said "Well I'm not doing it all again." Nobody offered to host us apart from the inlaws, but due to MIL's health it meant me preparing and cooking everything (except veggies) at home, and then having to transport it, serve it and clear up after it at their house. Driving home we both said that's it, we're not doing Christmas again, we're both pushing 60 now and we don't have the energy or the enthusiasm. Next year we'll have the Christmas WE want. I was so excited as we talked about going away for Christmas. Could we? Could we really just go away?

I could have guessed it was all just a fantasy, we're back to Christmas groundhog day and I could cry. When it came to the crunch my DH, as always, caved in as he's an only child and has lived with the FOG all his life (that's a whole other thread). We have to have Christmas with his parents, that's the bottom line, and if we invite them, we have to invite my DM and her dickhead husband, which includes my alcoholic sister as she lives with them. Okay, so we'll go to a hotel! Cue much moaning about the expense (well don't come then!), and the waste (FIL "you're mum can't eat £80 worth of food!"). Then my niece, my lovely niece who suffers with anxiety, who's all alone as her partner left her, her mum passed away and her dad lives abroad, asks to come. How can I say no? She has a an emotional support dog (not officially but in practice). DS and partner then break the good news they're coming to ours (I think they think they're doing us a favour gracing us with their presence). They have 2 dogs, both are very destructive. We have 2 dogs. We can't take dogs to the hotel! We can happily leave ours, but niece needs her dog and the other 2 will destroy the house! So here we are again, hosting Christmas for 11.

DH says the problem is all the dogs because we could go to the hotel if it weren't for the dogs. My view is that this all stems from his sodding parents because we HAVE to spend Christmas with them and everything else snowballs from that. I feel so resentful. I didn't really want to go to a hotel for an overpriced lunch with people I don't want to be with, so it's not the dogs. My reality is that until my inlaws shuffle off this mortal coil I have to suck it up and host everyone.

This problem seems so petty I know, but I used to love Christmas and now I don't enjoy it and don't look forward to it. It's just a load of work and expense for us. It's not like our efforts are even appreciated - there's such a sense of entitlement.

Anyway, vent over. I'm not usually one for self pity, and I know lots of people are lonely at Christmas so I should be grateful people want to come to me for free food and drink . If you read all that thanks and well done.

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HollowTalk · 14/11/2018 23:17

First of all, I wouldn't be cooking steak on Christmas Day. Are they saying they never have chicken throughout the year? Turkey is no different! And for the vegetarians I would buy something from M&S and put it in the oven - they can have that with vegetables. You're at risk of being a martyr if you pander to everyone. If they don't like it, they know what they can do.

And no visiting dogs. Are you mad? It's up to them to sort out what they do with their dogs - you should say they are just not coming. Again, if that's a deal breaker, they know what they can do.

Tell your son he has to bring wine/port and cheese.

Get tough - none of them wants to do something else. You're actually in a really strong position.

Armchairanarchist · 14/11/2018 23:23

I could have almost written the OP. Even last when I was recovering from major surgery I was emotionally blackmailed into it by everyone saying I'd get loads of help. I ended up hosting 15 with just help from DH. This included MIL staying for a week, even though she lives two miles away! This year we all arranged to go to SIL's 200 miles away, only to find MIL has said she now won't go there and is coming to stay with us!! Fuck that. I'm now the monster because I've refused her coming to stay (I'm still seriously ill) and have told her we're going out for Christmas lunch (£80 a head) but that she's welcome to join us. She's so tight I knew there was no chance she'd come. I can't cope with her smelly dog, shouting at DCs for laughing and her insistence that we watch every dire soap and reality tv series dredged from the bowels of the schedule. I don't care either. She cancelled our planned Christmas I'm standing up for myself for once. I still haven't forgiven her for my gift last year. It's a fucking crab!

mistletoeandbeer · 14/11/2018 23:43

Op don’t do it. Offer to pop in and see People, you can leave as you wish!! (Neck a shot of booze between houses, leaving the worst people til last!) Leave a few hours spare for yourself when you get home.

@Armchairanarchist
Good for you!

Laughed out loud at your fucking crab 😂 or fossilised jellyfish spider

NotAnotherParkingFine · 14/11/2018 23:45

What about all meeting at a pub for a booked Christmas dinner and then all going home to respective homes afterwards? A lot of pubs allow dogs! Believe me I've rung everywhere but they're all fully booked. Also, both DC and their partners and my niece are staying here as they all live 150+ miles away.

@Armchairanarchist your crab photo made me snort with laughter. What's that about? Are you a Cancerian? Do you collect glass ornaments? Are you a renowned crustacean authority? Talk about adding insult to injury!

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NotAnotherParkingFine · 14/11/2018 23:47

I just can't stop looking at that glass crab Grin Grin Grin

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mistletoeandbeer · 14/11/2018 23:48

Maybe she was trying to hint you were crabbit!

EmilyRosiEl · 14/11/2018 23:50

Armchairanarchist- is that because of your legendary love of decapods/crabs?! So funny! She shouts when your kids laugh? weird!

Armchairanarchist · 14/11/2018 23:58

I can confirm I am neither Cancerian, nor have I ever expressed an interest in any form of shellfish or mutant arachnid. It's huge too. My home is muted tones, a bit dull but imagine parquet floors, cornishware and beige. I've told DS's partner I'm gifting it to them as it's now a family heirloom.

NotAnotherParkingFine · 15/11/2018 00:22

Sandy claws is coming to town! Grin

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CarBump · 15/11/2018 00:27

No advice but that ‘fucking crab’ is hilarious. I would hunt down and buy her a twin. Uglier if at all possible!

DontCallMeCharlotte · 15/11/2018 07:05

Sandy claws is coming to town!

Genius!

Who would even think to "create" such a thing?!

Gaspodethetalkingdog · 15/11/2018 07:28

Tell husband YOU will go and stay in a hotel and have lunch there and stay the night. Leave the demanding relations to get on with it themselves. You could find a place you can take the dogs as well

crrrzy · 15/11/2018 07:42

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Armchairanarchist · 15/11/2018 08:41

@NotAnotherParkingFine Sandy Claws is born. My post apocalyptic take on that lurking Elfin twat shall appear during Advent, if nothing else it'll keep the DC in line.

nocutsnobuttsnococonuts · 15/11/2018 09:04

Op I would say I understand but we do 3 Christmas's here! My family here Christmas eve - shit tonne of party food from Iceland, Christmas day just us (with a pop in if you like I'm not running around after you and am likely still going to be in pjs attitude 😂) and boxing day at dh family (which isn't great, but kids love it so do it for them)

practical advice, could you do a Christmas food buffet this year so all the trimmings but serve yourself on disposable plates. You could get nice baguettes/rolls for the meat. Less pressure and can all be prepped day before. You might even be able to hire a warming trolley thing (can't remember the name!) to keep it all warm.

Aldi are doing 6 litre bottles of prosecco that might help you get through it!

That crab is brilliant, reminds me of the gift dd1 chose dh one year. The nightmare inducing Santa. Just seen a local shop have more so he was meant to look deformed and scary and wasn't a mistake 😂

Arrowfanatic · 15/11/2018 09:21

Oh OP no wonder you are stressed. I think your biggest problem here is just selfish relatives.

I'd be telling your son and all the younger ones that they need to be at yours earlier as they are cooking Xmas dinner this year and to consider it practice for when you all descend on them as you're not getting any younger.

I sympathise. I tend to end up hosting as I have the biggest house, to the point where my sister once rung me one evening to tell me that the following afternoon I'm hosting her child's birthday party and to get a cake and decorations in. I had been laid up with an horrific cold and had a 10 week old baby and a 2 year old toddler.

Anyway this year I've said I'm happy to host but no longer happy to foot the entire bill so now my family are contributing financially towards the costs. Some may see that as wrong but why should I pay out hundreds to feed and water everybody and they all just get 2 free days out.

LizzieBennettDarcy · 15/11/2018 09:29

I have everyone to us every year. Started when the kids were small and has carried on. Last year there were 13 of us, and I found it too much. I did 2 meats, a side of salmon, a veggie option, and about 8 different veg including cauliflower cheese... everything home made. So this year, I'm buying most of it ready prepped, there will be turkey and a veggie option and lots of pre done veg. And one pudding instead of 3/4 - and it will be shop bought. As will the mince pies, gammon, sausage rolls and cakes/bisuits. I'm just tired of waking up on Boxing Day feeling like I've run a marathon the day before and spending from the 20th cooking!! I'm 48 and thinking back, the last Christmas meal I had cooked for me, I was 22 ................ Sad

ChanklyBore · 15/11/2018 09:37

You’d problem sounds like your DH. Why is it all ‘I host’ ‘I have to cater for’ when it is ‘we’ wanted to create this tradition?

Why do you have to host, cater, cook, sort, and ring round every pub or hotel?

Is he worrying about any of that?

Lucisky · 15/11/2018 10:30

My family was large before people started dying off. My mother had the same problem as you. One year she just said 'I'm never cooking another fucking turkey ever again', and that was it. She and my dad had a lovely Christmas that year. They lit the fire, read books and shared a lobster for lunch. We all got on and made our own arrangements. We did all get together at some time over the Christmas period, but not all at once and any catering was sorted by going out.
I think, op, you really need to put your foot down and say 'enough'. Are you still going to be doing this in ten years time? Yes, unless you put a stop to it now. I sympathise, as I have often spent days chained up in the kitchen (not literally), only coming out to offer more food or collect washing up. It is not fun.
And as for people demanding steak instead of turkey - bloody cheek! Just tell them you are not doing it. They will get over it and create their own Christmases, as we all did. (And it is only now I appreciate the hell my mother went through.)

IncomingCannonFire · 15/11/2018 10:48

To be honest I would book into a hotel somewhere nice by myself and leave dh to it. The coast is lovely at Christmas.
We alternate having dm and my siblings/ pil and dh siblings/ just us. We've hosted since having dc but will probably travel in the next few years now gp are getting elderly and kids are older.

girlywhirly · 15/11/2018 11:45

OP, I think the problem is, you have been far too good a hostess, and now your guests are taking you for granted. I agree you should have a rest and tell people that as a result of feeling unwell and tired, this year’s meal will be bought in, and there will be less variety. You will cook turkey, but the steak eaters will have to bring and cook their own meat. Vegetarians are welcome to bring their own main course and cook it. Otherwise it’s a case of take or leave from the rest.

If people find they are not going to be waited on hand and foot, with home cooked food and so on, they may decide maybe they won’t come after all. I think you’ve been too kind for too long. Definitely your adult kids should be helping, I’m betting you were younger than they are now when you started doing Christmas dinners?

Give all the guests fair warning that this is the last year and that you will be away next Christmas.

DahliaDiver · 15/11/2018 12:18

That sounds awful for you OP and you have been far too obliging for too long. Seriously, fuck that.

If DH has gone against your wishes then he does all the organising, shopping, cooking and clearing up. Make it clear to everyone that he is in charge and responsible if it goes to shit.

If you do host Christmas you make ONE meal. If others don’t like it they can bring what they do want to eat and cook it themselves. You are being gracious to have them around at all. If it were me I’d be going out somewhere by myself and leaving the miserable bastards to it!

BiddyPop · 15/11/2018 12:36

(Pre bought) crab cakes for starters then!! Xmas Grin

So, you told everyone you weren't hosting, but DMIL is ill so you have to host her.

Just out of curiosity, Why does that mean you must host DM and dickhead DSF? (I get that, if you host them, you then must host alcoholic DSis).

And why must you host DNiece?
And DCs and their DPs? (Or is that just 1 DC and their DP?)

It does sound like the group is already decided for this year - but lay the groundwork that this really IS the last of the big years, and others must start to figure out their own plans for next year.

If DCs MUST come, then tell them they MUST appear long before lunch, with dogs able to be controlled (bringing crates or whatever) as they are needed to help prep it all. Ideally, they will be there the day before to do some of the donkey work of peeling veg, moving furniture, setting tables etc.

Or else they should be bringing an entire course - desserts already cooked or ready to just put in the oven, including all side elements (so cream whipped or custard made or brandy butter already combined). Or starters. Or cheese (although that one is a bit of a cop out).

ALL guests should be bringing something. You may need to be specific so that you don't have 6 boxes of chocolates and no starter or veggies. Transportable things are:
Cold starters (already prepped - so smoked salmon already sliced, lemons sliced, lettuce washed and shredded, bread sliced - not just packets to be opened and lots done to them!) or a pot of soup (in a Tupperware tub perhaps?) or something to easily throw on a baking tray and cook (if agreed beforehand so you have known to allow oven space - crab cakes, filo pastry things, M&S party food things...)

Roasted root veg, already peeled, chopped and seasoned.
Stuffing in an ovenproof dish
1 meat that can be served cold and already cooked and sliced (gammon, spiced beef etc)

Cheese and crackers, and (prewashed) grapes
Desserts
Chocolates (for tea/coffee)
Mince pies or Christmas Cake

Mixers for drinks

You need to be honest with your DM about your DSis' behavior and that you don't need to tolerate it anymore. Regardless of Christmas.

Your DC needs to know that 2 dogs are a hassle, and that they should consider them going into kennels near their own home when coming to stay with you.

DNiece, being more of a support dog, is a different situation (especially if that dog will manage with your DDogs ok), but even if anxious, surely she could come and get involved in the day - prepping or clearing up afterwards. Or bring something substantial as her contribution.

Could you tell DCs that, while you need to be the host as their DGM is not up to it and needs to be catered for, that YOU are not up to it either and they can do what you did last year, catering it all in your house but them doing the work? You can be more helpful in that shopping can be done beforehand (preferably them ordering online and you just needing to receive it), and you could do some things at you leisure in advance - just not the entire responsibility for everyone else. And that you need to be able to enjoy a Christmas Day yourself, as it is so many years since you have actually been able to do that.

BiddyPop · 15/11/2018 12:38

Oh yes, and while I'd put a supermarket veggie dish in the oven, there's no way I'd be doing steak as well - it's turkey or veggie and that's it. Or else a nice joint of beef and a veggie dish for everyone. Anyone who is insisting on steak can just stay home and cook for themselves.

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 15/11/2018 12:41

Hope it goes well/reasonably stress-free, OP - make sure they all muck in, and as for the super fussy ones, let them bring their own and stick it in the microwave.

In a way I'm reminded of my lovely MiL - for 40 odd years she had been cooking Christmas dinner for 12+ in a seriously tiny kitchen. Dh and I were living in the Middle East, where the weather's very nice in winter, so offered tickets for PiLs to join us for Christmas.

FiL, who could be an awkward, stubborn old bugger, said, 'Out of the question, can't leave the house in winter, what if the pipes freeze' etc., this was London, rarely really cold.

Good old Mil said, 'Well, you can do what you like - I'm going!'

Of course he came too in the end, they had a lovely time . The rest of the family had to fend for themselves for once, and MiL thoroughly enjoyed her 'holiday from cooking'.

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