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this tip deserves the tip...

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suzycreamcheese · 14/12/2006 18:43

was shocked to see mn tip recommending 98p foil trays to save on washing up at christmas; they dont rot these things infact they'll be around for your grandchildrens' grandchildren to enjoy ....

easy way to clean baking / roasting tins is clear out fatty grease gunk into old tin can - not down sink (stops needing plumber in few months) 1/2 fill w/ water and bit of washing up liquid and heat gently on stove til dishes are washed. its really easy to clean then, have big glass of wine ready for washer upper and pop chocolates in their mouth whilst doing dishes!
ray mears will be proud of me!

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DoesntChristmasDragOn · 15/12/2006 16:12

What fills up landfills more? foil trays or nappies?

Mercy · 15/12/2006 16:15

Do you mean the type of foil trays you get take-away food in?

If so, they are re-usable and recyclable.

LucyJones · 15/12/2006 16:19

DoesntChristmasDragOn - what's your point then? yes we all know disposable anppies fill up landfill. Do you mean if those of us who use them are so evil to do that we may has well go thre whoile hog and use disposable cutlery, tins etc?
Or are you saying if Mumsnet can't use this as a tip of the day they also shouldn't have any adds/tips re. disposable nappies....

DoesntChristmasDragOn · 15/12/2006 16:23

I find it amazing that people get het up about a tip to use a foil tray on one day of the year. There are far worse enviromental offenders in people's every day living.

LucyJones · 15/12/2006 16:25

Aah yes I see where you're coming from now! yes, hope it is just one day a year and not for every Sunday roast!

DoesntChristmasDragOn · 15/12/2006 16:25

I don't think that anyone who uses disposable nappies has the "right" to get "morally superior" about using a foil tray or plastic cutlery/plates occasionally though.

Disclaimer: I don't actually mean "right" or "morally superior" I'm just too lazy to think of the right phrases

DoesntChristmasDragOn · 15/12/2006 16:26

(and I speak of someone who's used disposables for 2 children and convinced herself that she cancelled this out by recycling everything else )

LucyJones · 15/12/2006 16:32

Hmmm.... I cansee where you're coming from... only I guess the argument would be it takes hardly anytime to wash up a roasting tin compared to using real nappies. Although as a disposable nappy user I've no idea how easy it is to use real ones these days

DoesntChristmasDragOn · 15/12/2006 16:35

It doesn't take much more time than disposables really. I've been surprised.

LucyJones · 15/12/2006 16:36

Maybe I should give it a try, just don't like the idea of the inital cost...
Are you Soupy by the way?

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suzycreamcheese · 15/12/2006 17:32

doesntchristmasdragon..i take your point too but still think if there is demand for this more of the same will be available etc..and if everyone on here thought thats a fantastic tip that would then be x amount of trays to bury
was just trying to make the point that it is stuff like this that you have little bit of control over...
anyway who has ever managed to eat / enjoyed eating w/ platic 'knife' & fork its just a grown up buffet game imo

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swedishmum · 15/12/2006 17:44

It was my tip. Not that I feel any need to justify myself but I don't do it on a regular basis, only when cooking for 14 when I get lumbered with most of the washing up too. I am normally much greener - all veg trimmings on compost, biodynamic food box from across the field, spent last Sat recycling for scouts. Another reason for me is cesspool - have to have it emptied every 3-4 weeks at a cost of £70. On Christmas Day we will have locally sourced food, real napkins, real knives and forks and drink from real glasses. I'll be drinking a few glasses of Cristal and playing with my children while my kitchen is clean and there's no washing up for once.

swedishmum · 15/12/2006 17:47

PS Made my gravy already - it's frozen in tupperware. That way everyone gets hot food with proper gravy and I get a few minutes less faffing in the kitchen on one day of the year. May just chuck the tupperware if I can't be arsed to wash it of course...

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suzycreamcheese · 15/12/2006 18:20

swedishmum..wasn't getting at you but i know tons of people who just dont ever think of these issues and thats why i brought this up..no offence
also imo it against the law to cook and wash up.. enjoy your meal and day and cristal!!! lovely!

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DoesntChristmasDragOn · 15/12/2006 18:32

But there are far worse things cluttering up landfills and using a disposable tin for Christmas day isn't going to have such a huge impact as, say, all that infernal packaging on the gifts and the plasitc tat that gets thrown away.

Mercy · 15/12/2006 18:34

And as I said, they are re-usable and recyclable! (if they are the ones I think you mean)

I think you are getting biodegrable and recyclable mixed up

Mercy · 15/12/2006 18:34

ahem, biodegradable

FairyTaleOfNewYork · 15/12/2006 18:35

real nappies take no time at all to do. really they dont. the most time ispend on them isnt getting them washed and dried, thats the easy part, the most time consuming part is folding them to put them back in the drawer

FairyTaleOfNewYork · 15/12/2006 18:35

isnt there a charity that collects foil trays?

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suzycreamcheese · 15/12/2006 19:18

where we used to live we could recycle foil, where we are now, no.
the dutch now recycle disposable nappies surely it could happen here too
i just dont think we need any encouragement not to be friendly to environment thats all..

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JollyOldSaintNikkielas · 15/12/2006 20:13

We can recycle clean foil at our recycling area

swedishmum · 16/12/2006 01:36

I'll recycle my tinfoil tin of course - now I feel I have to! (Would have anyway) What I've learnt from this is to post more precisely next time, as in, "For one day only, if you're used to cooking/cleaning for four kids and a husband living abroad in a hotel, and if your fil is the type to say women shouldn't wear the trousers, give yourself a break and use recyclable aluminium trays that you can always use for marbling with dc4 if they aren't in a state, or even send left over food home in with mil.... "
Should have been a bit clearer to start with suzy, must admit!

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suzycreamcheese · 17/12/2006 03:05

svenskimum - i really appreciate your post! And I can see where you are coming from too; sounds like christmas is far from anything like a holiday for you and that cant be much fun.
It sounds like you are really really green and am sorry if you felt like any of this was getting at you...as i said, sometimes it feels like I am surrounded by thoughtless waste and just try to do whatever I can...
hope you and the family have great christmas and enjoy every drop of your champagne, you deserve it!

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suzycreamcheese · 18/12/2006 23:07

sm - also, am sad if i have spoiled any spontaneity of your future posting, i do hope not..
no hard foilings I hope

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swedishmum · 19/12/2006 07:17

No hard feelings - I'm totally non-stick! Back to the strangeness of my family Christmas. MIL asked if I wanted her to come round early to help me put the turkey in the oven. Am I missing something about how hard it is to do? Maybe she could open the door while I slide the tin (foil!) in??