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Horrific bleeding nappy rash - advice please

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Rumpel · 11/08/2009 15:28

My DS 12 months was diagnosed with an upper repsiratory tract viral infection last Tuesday - he'd had it for a few days. He developed diarrhoea by Wednesday, we went off on holiday on Thursday morning. Friday I called NHS 24 as his nappy rash was so bad. Basically they couldn't do much.

Saturday we took him to A&E and they gave us Timidine (sp?) which he has had before.
Upon returning home I have left him bum out as much as I can - but with diarrhoea it is not so easy to do! I have been applying the timidine, vaseline and nappy changing as much as I can. Took him back to GP yesterday - who gave me dietry advice for him.

But his wee bum/scrotum is red raw and bleeding. Anyone got any other advice or helpful hints for me please? I handed in 2 stool samples today and will get results Friday.

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FlightHattendant · 13/08/2009 13:28

EGG WHITE yes yes yes

This was the only thing that worked with ds2 when he had a bleeding bit

and it didn't sting like the creams do

Poor little mite. Can you ring them today and ask to ruch it through? He might be getting quite dehydrated, they could have to put him on an IV drip, known lots of people who've had this done for their little ones, it really helps.

please get him seen today, I'm worried xx

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Rumpel · 13/08/2009 13:42

Thanks all - I have tried to give him dioralyte. I am making sure he drinks plenty. The Gp told me to water down his milk and give him bread, rice cake etc but I have just read that you should continue to feed them milk (I put him back on formula as I was worried about his vit/mineral intake) and starchy meals as usual Now I am more confused. I gave him a rusk in his milk this am as he was starving but thirsty too. I have pinched his skin and he doesn't appear to be dehydrated - his mouth is wet.

If he is still the same by this PM i am going to call them again - even just to speak to someone for reassurance. That's 9 days he has has severe diarrhoea for now and I know how I feel with it (I've got IBS) it makes you weak.

Thanks ladies.

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FlightHattendant · 13/08/2009 13:45

Oh you poor thing

9 days is a very long time, I really think they ought to be thinking about admitting him, especially if it isn't improving.

Let us know how you get on - I understood that dairy is not good, until he is recovered - his little gut won't have the right materials to digest it, so it'll just go straight through anyway.

Stick with dioralyte, or weak squash type drinks, if he prefers. Also a little starch is Ok, plain rice, etc. or banana.

Good luck, will be thinking of you x

SKYTVADDICT · 13/08/2009 13:53

Poor you and poor DS. My DS1 had a badly bleeding bottom from nappy rash and I was using metanium. I asked the pharmasist if there was anything better and he said nothing, just keep clean and dry and in the air if possible and NOT to use metanium on broken skin as it can be absorbed. Sorry if that is confusing but it is what I was told so thought I would pass it on.

Hope it clears for you both soon

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VulpusinaWilfsuit · 14/08/2009 18:55

Oh your poor baby. I have never tried egg white myself. We had a more chemical 'big guns' solution to open sores, bleeding nappy rash... It is called Cavilon and you can ask your GP for it but we got some from our then HV. It is basically a spray used for bedsores which puts a fine layer of polymer (sort of plastic varnish ) over the skin and stays there long enough for the skin to heal.

I know it sounds horrific - all those nasty chemicals - but TBH when we were in your position, we would have done anything to help heal the sores. Unfortunately all the creams in the world aren't going to help with the constant acidity washing over them when the skin is so damaged.

It helped our littlie within hours, after days and days of awful bleeding.

I hope you find something that works.

VulpusinaWilfsuit · 14/08/2009 18:57

Sounds like Cavilon was what Titsalina had too. It really is the best thing when the sores are open and the poo is constant and runny...

kittywise · 14/08/2009 19:43

fennel water instead of milk.

dd3 had this when she was 11 months she had the runs constantly day and night, horrible bleeding sores all over her nappy area.

I started a thread here in desperation as she was waking 1/2 hourly all through the night whenever she pooed and I had to try and change the nappy of a screaming baby in pain, it was ghastly.

The good ladies here told me to take her off her milk as it would make it far far worse and to boil up fennel seeds, strain the liquid and give her that to drink.

That above everything else helped the most, worth a try?.

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Rumpel · 14/08/2009 20:23

Hi ladies - back at Gp today. He said nothing they could do basically. Got stoll results PM and they came back negative. I was told to put the vaseline on to provide a barrier against the acidity of the urine/faeces.

Timidine is a prescription only mild steroid anti-fungal cream and Gp said it was as good as naything else they could prescribe. He also said that GPs were split 50/50 regarding diet. So I came home - bought a travel cot so he can be kept in one place with bum free without fear of DD trailing through his diarrhoea. Also bought soya milk and yogurt to keep him off dairy for a while to see if that helps.
we had 2 non pooey nappies today so that is an improvement.

GP said if he was still the same in another 4 days or so to go back.

Thaks again ladies for your help. I am awya tomorrow for 1 night so will let you knwo how he is Sunday or Monday.

have a good weekend all.
x

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tryingtobemarypoppins · 14/08/2009 21:44

rumple your poor LO!

Try the BRAT diet, Banana, Rice, apple sauce (fruit puree) and Toast.

A night or two with no nappy in the travel cot sounds good and I would put metanium on after the Timidine has dried.

We had a case of this a few month ago and within 2 days he was clear.

Fingers crossed for you.

DannyWotty1 · 14/08/2009 21:48

My DH used to dissolve some salt (ordinary table salt) in warm water and use this to wash when changing nappies - cleared up nappy rash IMMEDIATELY, one wash started to make a difference.

AitchTwoOh · 14/08/2009 21:52

i found metanium incredibly drying, same with sudocreme. terrible creams imo.

timodene and bepanthen in this house. the only times dds have had these terrible bleeding rashes they've been teething or had thrush.

Pawsandclaws · 14/08/2009 22:06

I use Lanisoh on nappy rash as a barrier, also for dribble rash and and it worked very well, I thought if it's good enough for cracked chapped nipples it must be good enough for cracked chapped bottoms/skin etc. It does say for cracked skin and newborns BF through it so presumably ingest and it's safe for that.

It worked a TREAT, better than Vaseline as it's somehow thicker and stickier.

The HV said she'd never heard of using it for that but it shouldn't be harmful and if it worked then great!!

Metanium, although I know many swear by it, I find very drying and somehow too strong, not at all soothing.

foreverchanges · 15/08/2009 17:00

this is amazing and soothing too

foreverchanges · 15/08/2009 17:02

agree bout metatanium p and c too harsh

AitchTwoOh · 15/08/2009 18:20

i can imagine lansinoh would be good, actually.

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CarGirl · 15/08/2009 19:18

sprilon spray it's for bed sores creates a very light but completely protective barrier plus you don't have to touch their bum to apply it. I got it on pescription for similar problems but did buy it over the counter once about £7!!! Didn't hurt them at all.

CarGirl · 15/08/2009 20:04

Here is some info on sprilon

www.netdoctor.co.uk/medicines/100002451.html

VulpusinaWilfsuit · 15/08/2009 20:12

yes, I think Sprilon is another version of the Cavilon idea... Rumpel, did you see those posts further down the thread? Really, do investigate these sprays. GPs don't seem to know about them because they're a nursing thing, but your HV or midwife might be more help or support on finding them if you specifically ask.

It made a MASSIVE difference in hours, and no amount of other barrier creams, treatment creams, water, oil, vaseline, thrush treatment and steroid cream or ANYTHING that we tried for weeks worked like the polymer spray on open bleeding sores...

CarGirl · 15/08/2009 20:15

I agree with vulpusina, these sprays are amazing my dd had sort of holes in her bum from the deep bleeding sores and the difference was noticable after one nappy change.

oopsacoconut · 15/08/2009 20:17

Lansinoh was fab on DD's rash - we use it for all sorts of things in our house. I warmed it (the tube) very slightly in a bowl of water first to soften it so it spreads more easliy. Much better than vaseline

foxinsocks · 15/08/2009 20:18

yes sprays v good

the Timodine does work but just one note of caution, it actually stingsa bit when it goes on. I know this as I had to use it for a rash I had this year (not on my bum I hasten to add ) but it was quite burny (does work though).

AitchTwoOh · 15/08/2009 22:27

good to know, foxy, thanks. i do hope you're bum rash clears up soon.

foxinsocks · 16/08/2009 20:29

lol