Why is the single vaccine safer than the triple MMR?

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Have read lots (from links on MN thre3ads mainly!) about the MMR, but wondered if someone could clear something up for me as I'm in a bit of a muddle.

The options seem to be:

a) Have the MMR

b) Immunise with single vaccines

c) Don't immunise

I get a) and b), but could someone clearly and succinctly explain to me what the argument is for saying the single vaccines are safer than the MMR?

Thank you very much.

I don't think it is....but if you are worried that the MMR is going to cause Autism then you might consider the single vaccines, vut it leaves your child exposed to the risk of measules, mumps and rubella etc for longer because of the time needed to give all three

Because their little bodies, especially if they have compromised immunity or a familial history of complications, then only have to fight 1 disease at a time.
But yes, they do then run a risk of catching one of the other 2 illnesses for a longer period of time.
Interestingly, my clinic in Harley St, were adamant no boosters required, so the 2 mmr jabs versus 6 singles didnt happen for me, it was 2 singles (they wouldnt give dd mumps jab, say its not necessary for girls)

Also, there hasn't been much research done into the optimum intervals to leave between administering the single vaccines.

IMO (although I know that there are plenty of people who don't think this) there are no proven medical reasons why single vaccines are safer than the MMR.

Surely not immunising girls for mumps leads to increased risks for boys due to lack of herd immunity?

the argument is that the mmr contains three different diseases which can then overload a potentially already compromised immune system, whereas if you give single vaccines the immune system is not so totally overloaded.

PS Yes, I agree with QOD above, regarding children with compromised immunity or family history. In this case immunisation shouldn't be automatically as per the standard schedule, it should be administered following discussion with relevant medical professionals. This may be as the normal schedule or not depending on the individual.

That was my reason the singles but sort of on topic anyone know why there arent singles for those first vaccines meng.dip.polio etc as I hate hate hate the overload on them too. In fact theres more in one.

further information on MMR

The DTP/Polio/Hib immunisation doesn't contain any 'live' components.

further information on DTP/Polio/Hib

thanks Joe I did wonder if that was the case but Im lazy and didnt look it up

Thank you very much.

So there is nothing to indicate that those who feel the MMR could cause autism believe that the singles do not cause autism then?

It's purely an immune system overload issue?

That was it for ME as my neice is severely brain damaged due to mmr then chicken pox in one foul swoop.
Re the comment on the herd immunity re mumps, I have worried about it, but took medical advice from people who were charging me a LOT of money - I kinda went with the "well, I am paying so if they don't want my money then she doesn't really really need it" thought.
Interestingly, a boy in her class just recently had it! He hadnt had mmr as he had serious heart surgery and it was recommended he didnt have mmr, and dd didn't get it!

It was for me too though I may have gone for the mmr if my gran hadn't offered to pay. For her it was autism as my Uncle is severely autistic.

QOD - i think that advice is/was possibly based on the fact that there was very little single mumps vaccine available so rather than admit they couldn't give you the full option of single vaccines they made out your dc didn't need it anyway.

FWIW a friend of mine had really bad oophritis from mumps so it is NOT true girls don't need it.

Although it is a small risk (5%) it is a risk.

It can cause problems in pregnancy and is also linked to premature menopause.

I think the advice you were guven QOD regarding mumps vaccine was very misguided on the grounds of herd immunity and because it can cause serious problems for girls aswell as boys. I would be very suspicious of a clinic giving out that advice.

In fact, compared to the stress on your immune system caused by just being alive, the stress of any vaccine, even a quintuple one, is a mere nothing.

Single vaccines are less safe for the reasons given.

Not vaccinating is wilfully to endanger your children and their friends and all the families you know, and their families too.

From having been almost eradicated, these really potentially quite dangerous diseases are now having quite a revival. It's all down to the mmr/autism scare, despite that having been entirely due to idiots in the media misrepresenting that original research as something other than it was.

The MMR is safe. It always was safe. Please give it to your child!

yeah, good points!