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It's Been Four Years...

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RascalUK · 17/02/2009 05:14

To begin I am curious how a website can hold copyright to a posting, that was not written by the site, it?s administers etc. It is like you made some music, put it on a website and then the copyright changed from the Artist, to the site owner. Most odd..But anyway.

Who am I, why am I posting this, what is it all about? Read on...It is very, very long but regulars may appreciate this. Others may have heard about this and the rest..Well allow your curiosity to be filled.

Four years ago I was 14. I read in a magazine as part of a Sunday Newspaper, an article about a website made by mothers for mothers. It had a big insight into how it begun small and had got bigger, about the founders and about the sort of topics talked about. It had quotes about how mothers had problems and would come here to ask fellow mums for advice and help. I was curious and wanted to make a ?splash? and cause some fuss.

I came to the site and had a look for some active threads and found many about Calpol. It seemed many mums were talking about when to use it, how much, or worried about using it and looking for alternatives. I thought this was a juicy subject and would go with it. I then messaged 100 women on another website with the same scripted story copied and pasted to get a ?feel? of public opinion on a woman who used Calpol way over the bottles dosage instructions. It caused a stir, with the vast majority saying how bad and dangerous such was. (Although some thought nothing of it)

At the same time I and found a medical website about what it was, could do if taken in too higher amounts and stats on how many kids were taken into hospital and what outcomes were of the cases. (By the way no one has ever died or needed a Liver transplant in the UK from taking too much Calpol but each year many hundreds of Adults die or suffer lifelong health problems from taking too many Paracetamol tablets)

Armed with the facts the scene was set. I would pose as a woman who openly admitted to giving her child too much Calpol. The child originally was to be 12 years old. The reason was, by this age technically can have the adult dose of most over the counter medication. This would ?soften the blow of the Calpol use? However I had no facts about that so went with no age, and simply weight of child. I posted a thread sat back and watched all hell break loose.

Many, many were upset, angry at such a thing. They thought it must be a ?troll? and alerted admin who promptly removed the post. Despite the original post no longer being on the site the debate continued. Someone then set up another forum, talking about ?Calpol Milkshakes? ? What the hell! I came back and created a second account, this time commenting on my own postings in a non-agreeable way but raising the question: If someone asks a question about medication, should anyone other than a doctor/nurse etc comment and give advice about that?

This further fuelled the flames and before long, I got bored and since 2005 have not been back to the site. Recently however I remembered it, and came back. I am amazed how many references there are when Calpol is talked about to ?do you remember the incident that turned out to be a 14 year old kid pissing about? or others being suspected of being trolls for talking about Calpol. The posts I made, the debate that happened after ? In part still remain on the site. Amazing.

So what is the point of this? Well, to say sorry I guess. I am 18 now and oddly off to Uni in Sept to study Medicine. I never thought that a single post could cause such a huge reaction. For anyone who may have worried, or thought badly, been upset or just plain old pissed off then I did not mean to cause that. I guess I just wanted to put a wasp in the room and see what happened.

A lot has changed since then. I am talking about the Internet. Four years ago we did not have the widespread super fast internet connections we do now. Social Networking was still in its infancy and yet now who does not have a computer? Who does not use the internet not just to search for things, but catch up on missed telly, call a phone, download music and truly interact online in amazing ways. But despite all this I have to say this site, just feels stuck in the past.

Its general design and the fact the people on here remain (from reading various posts) to be like locals in a pub. They all know everyone, but when a new resident arrives and pops in will all look suspiciously and wonder what they are about, can they be trusted and what are they going to be talking about. It seems ?ultra conservative? ? Even personal topics that are talked about here, such as women?s sexuality, wants and experiences almost have to be done so very politely and hush hush so not to shock or offend. Very few sites are like that, and very few people are online about such things. More, be open it is only words after all. Not here it seems however.

It is not so bad, but I wonder how many young mums, or younger single mums come here to talk and feel welcome. I suspect many will put up hands and say ?me me? but it does feel very..Middle England in here. Married, happy and with kids in tow. England just is not quite the green and pleasant land. Take the recent story of a 13 year old that is alleged to have given his 15 year old girlfriend a baby. Shocking on the one hand, yet so typically English on the other. You just don?t hear things like that going on in Europe or America. I wonder what is going wrong with us all in this country.

So now everyone knows the fact, it was made up by me to create an impact and raise a debate. And now I shall once again depart this site and carry on with my life. But, I was the one who shook the shack that is Mumsnet.

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Are your children’s vaccines up to date?
FAQinglovely · 17/02/2009 17:21

ahhh now I must confess to remembering Calpolgate

TheDevilWearsPrimark · 17/02/2009 17:21

It's troll city today, what is going on?

deepinlaundry · 17/02/2009 17:24

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harleyd · 17/02/2009 17:25

boom shake shake shake the room...

what a load of wank

rubyslippers · 17/02/2009 17:26

TDWP - half term

there are some bonkers threads at the moment

this may just take the biscuit

shook the shack

RealityIsMyOnlyValentine · 17/02/2009 17:31

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liath · 17/02/2009 17:32

The trouble with the internet is that whatever you post has the potential to stay around FOREVER. I guaruntee that if you re-read your op again in 20 years time as a mature, married doctor with a kid or two that you will CRINGE .

Reminds me why I try not to read my teenage diaries!!

diedandgonetodevon · 17/02/2009 17:33

Well I missed Calpolgate too - spent to much time reading about bumsex - very Middle England!

liath · 17/02/2009 17:33

feck, can't even spell guarantee....

Frasersmum123 · 17/02/2009 18:23

Gosh, so many trolls today!

Some people have too much time on thier hands

ToiletRollCover · 17/02/2009 18:35

This like a film where the bad guy comes on and unmasks saying "'Tis I! Mwahahahaa!" and the cast look around saying WTF!?

unfitmother · 17/02/2009 18:39

What an arse!!

memoo · 17/02/2009 18:42

Jesus, yet another trolling OP who thinks any of us actually give a flying fuck!!!!

I'm much to middle england for all this crap, sat here in my tiny damp council house.

must go now as the brats are screaming for more calpol mixed with fruitshoot

Miyazaki · 17/02/2009 18:45

slightly off english, like a very fluent speaker of english as a second language.

louii · 17/02/2009 19:07

Nope never heard this mentioned either and have been here for years.

AlistairSim · 17/02/2009 19:27

What's that semi-farting noise I hear?

Why, it must be the air escaping from your over-inflated ego.

TotalChaos · 17/02/2009 19:33

wtf?18 year old prospective medical student my arse.

Flightattendant27 · 17/02/2009 19:34

It's quite funny in a way, it is the kind of confessional shite you write when you're about 17/18 - letters to my English teacher apologising for calling him a perv, when I was 13

I doubt he even remembered

Poor bloke

AMumInScotland · 17/02/2009 19:41

You'd think they could get past the Tuesday of half-term before running so low on ideas. Youth of today, eh! Not like in my day, we had to make our own entertainment back then, and come home to a handful of cold gravel....

RascalUK · 18/02/2009 00:22

Well I Tried to stay away..But had a peek and 45 replies got me to reply.

I am 18 for those of you thinking differently. And I do actually have a life. But I wonder WHY people stopp to thinking because someone happens to say something random, out of the blue, that took 10 minutes to type up makes them not have a life. It kinda silly. I am sure everyone has time on hands at somepoint in the day, I just used mine to write the post.

I posted the message to try and be sincere. I worry too much and do things to try and balance the view, and explain actions. But then realise honestly no matter the subject you can't please everyone. Take war, we all know it is bad but does not stop people supporting it so you could never have a point of view to fit all. Anyway..

This make you laugh, but then I spell checked it all and grammer checked because thought if I do not, be something someone would pick up on and have a go at me over.

It seems many see me as a selfish stuck up person who is so full of himself - I am not really. But 'Calpolgate' caused a stir, and this message has in a way caused 45 replies about..Well nothing really. But many of you replied anyway and I can't help giving back as I get and asking: Those who told me to go get a life, what sort of life do you have where you took time to reply to me to tell me something like that?

I am not a bad person. Little odd and different maybe, but not bad and wrong etc. Misguided?

Finally TROLLS! God it pisses me off. I am not sure what makes a troll, I have been told in replied I am a troll. So I guess from that it is someone who posts something about nothing, or lies. Now a flammer is not a troll. I think I could be more a flammer than a troll. But then you got the spammers. All these words make me laugh, flammers, trolls, spammers at the end of the day every one who does it is a person who types words on a forum.

I take back what I said about this not being a 'friendly community' - It is, and you are right not been on here long enough to know about it. It a bit like tech support forums. I post on many to help others, and you learn things and get to kinda get a feel for the regulars. Obviously kids and computers are not the same but the forums that help others with problems are. And when some fool pops up and causes problems for the regulars you want to defend the place and get rid of them and return back to the peace that was.

So I do get it. I know not covered everything here..I suspect me showing my face again just cause more to say oh boring, go away, what you doing wasting time etc. I am not sure it is 12:22am now and here I am typing all this. Not so much life required, more sleep now.

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Flightattendant27 · 18/02/2009 07:33

Look, rascal, it's just that put simply, bigger things have happened.

The fact very few of us who were around in those days even remember it must make that obvious.

It's a nice trait to want to explain actions but without an apology it doesn't really warm anyone's heart to you...it just sounds as though you want praise perhaps or the thrill of outing your clever self for having the power to trick people a few years ago.

Nobody is going to laud you up for that, are they? We're busy parents. We come here for help and support often because we have difficult lives. F*cking about with us because you've decided we (collectively) are 'stupid' enough to be stirred up by your little wooden spoon, over an issue which of course is likely to cause worry among us (have you considered how it might feel to hear of a child being abused by a parent, and not feel able to do anything about it? That's basically what your original 'trick' was about, yes?) is not something anyone is going to like you for.

It wasn't a decent thing to do, it was wrong, pathetic and pointless. We all want to do our best as parents, we're some of us not much older than you in fact some are the same age. I don't know what made you think you were so...well, important...that you knew better than us or were above us.

It's fairly common for 14yos to be a bit arrogant and I can relate to it in a way, but really, you do need to get over yourself a little bit.

HTH.

mollyroger · 18/02/2009 09:34

trust me, doesn't take me 10 minutes to type, ''off you fuck!''

LynetteScavo · 18/02/2009 09:45

I've never had a discussion on calpol, or even seen a thread on calpol.

bamboostalks · 18/02/2009 09:55

You have some serious problems for a young girl, before you go off to medical school( if you are really going),I suggest(with knidness) that you seek some counselling as you are a fantasist and potentially a danger to others who may come into your care. Clearly your own life is empty and you are seeking attention. This is not normal behaviour, hope you can see that.

AMumInScotland · 18/02/2009 10:10

Well, thank you for coming back to chat some more, but I do think you need to develop a little more self-awareness, particularly if you really are planning to become a doctor.

The reason people use the word "troll" is because you deliberately came onto a forum, posting something which was untrue, in order to get a reaction. That is covered by the definition of a troll.

Your OP also did not sound like an explanation, or an apology. It sounded like "Look at me, I'm so clever, you're still talking about me years later". When actually, your original posts did not shake us to our foundations in the slightest. If a few people remember you it's in terms of "What a wanker!". Is that the effect you want to have on people you interact with?

There have been posts which have shaken MN, but yours wasn't one of them.

TBH your posts sound like you define yourself by that original post. You think of yourself as a rebel, a trouble-maker, shaking up the cosy world of Middle-England happily-married mums. Have you actually taken the time to look round this site, or is that just your assumption about what it is like? If you take the trouble to look in the "Relationships" section for example, you will see the whole range of personal experience. If you look in "Mental Health" you'll see the realities of issues like post-natal depression. We really don't need an immature attention-seeking teenager to "shake us up".

I do hope a few years of university will broaden your horizons, and give you a little more self-awareness and understanding of other people, before you try to take your place as an adult in the world.