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Mongolian Blue Spots

51 replies

rabbit54 · 12/01/2009 00:14

Has any one's babies got one? And if so what's the ethnicity of parents and grandparents?

Ours has one - I am English with one parent english, one parent half irish, half english. My partner is English, with both parents Jewish.

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TheButterflyEffect · 12/01/2009 00:22

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Diva0507 · 12/01/2009 00:32

well, mongolians came up to poland in 12th, and many never made back home so there are many mongolian blood mixed in europe.
its very common, babies are born with mongolian spot all over the world. some have huge dark blue and some have faint blue, some little and some big, some stays a few months and some disappears in now time.

MarchNowFebMum · 12/01/2009 00:35

my dd has one little blue spot on her bum, i am german and scottish and my dh is indian. i was expecting it bc i have a friend who is jewish and had big blue streaks on her back when born - she's russian jewish. dd is 10 months an still has. my girlfriend lost hers at about 2 years, i need to take a pic so my dd can see it!

christywhisty · 12/01/2009 07:49

MY DS had one at the base of his spine, looked like a bruise but faded with a year. My Dad was cypriot, my mum welsh, DH's family are english.

FairySparkles · 14/01/2009 07:16

My dd has one at the base of her spine - thought it was a bruise at first but it never went! My family's all english and DP's family's a bit of a mixed bunch - his grandfathers Polish and his Grandmothers Greek tho so it's probably likely to have come from that side!

mrsleroyjethrogibbs · 14/01/2009 07:21

i am sri lankan and dh is english and both our children were born with them but with dd it was quite aparent on her bottom. The paediatrition picked it up straight away and said she would just write it in dd's notes so that there would be no confusion between that and a bruise. It faded after a month or two. DS had a tiny one which faded in a few weeks.

PortAndLemon · 14/01/2009 07:54

DS has what I think might be one -- a birthmark that looks like a bruise, certainly, but it's not very blue, more purplish-brown. We're English/Irish/Scottish/Welsh back as far as I can trace on both sides.

blueshoes · 14/01/2009 08:58

Dcs are european, oriental and asian mix. Dd has very fair skin and no (as far as I recall) Mongolian bluespots. Ds has darker skin and was born with it all round his bottom and on his spine and either side (about 50p size). They look like bluish discolourations. The midwife noted it in the hospital notes at birth.

I have heard of HVs being ignorant and questioning them as 'bruises', even one outrageous case of going so far as to report to social services. The manager at ds' nursery pulled me aside and showed me his back (it was my aupair doing the drop off and pick up) just to get my confirmation there was nothing more sinister going on between my aupair and ds, lol.

The spots are fading with age. Ds is now 2.3.

chinchi · 14/01/2009 09:01

DD has one. Im English and DH is Turkish.

FeelingLucky · 14/01/2009 09:07

I'm Chinese and my DH half Scottish, half French
DD has one - literally a blue spot at bottom of spine, which is still there aged 19 months. When she was born her bum was all blue, like bruising (think MIL thought I'd been spanking her) but this has faded.

Wonder if the blue spot will actually disappear completely one day?

zanz1bar · 14/01/2009 10:31

DS has one now 5 yrs and still a hint on the base of his spine.I'm english with hint of spanish/irish. DP is scottish.

HV had never seen one on a blonde baby before.But his skin clour is very sallow, tans well in summer almost grey in winter.

So asked around the families and got some very defensive replies when asking about great grandparents... very interesting would love to follow up ancestry.

plumandolive · 14/01/2009 11:08

Two of mine had them- husband Jewish/Eiddle Eastern/Asian dad, and European, I'm english/european.
My dc's lost them at different ages.
blushoes- I've heard of that too- ignorance can be quite frightening can't it? The implications are alarming.
Health visitors seem to be aware of it, but all health officials ought to know.

plumandolive · 14/01/2009 11:11

wiki on blu spots
Interesting about where they are most prevelant.

Aimsmum · 14/01/2009 11:15

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quickdrawmcgraw · 14/01/2009 11:16

dd had one when she was born. Dh and I are both Irish.

I though it was a bruise too and fretted and fretted that the change mat wasn't padded enough.

blueshoes · 14/01/2009 11:17

Agree, plumandolive. I think in the case I read (on mn, no less), the HV was in an area with a predominantly white population and not familiar with babies of Jewish, Asian, African, Oriental etc descent.

scorpio1 · 14/01/2009 11:21

Our ds2 has one - i am Cornish but DH is very dark, although not foreign iyswim. Grandparents all british too.

purpleflower · 14/01/2009 11:25

DS and DD both have one. DS has one at the base of his spine which has faded but not gone at 2.3. DD has a slight colouring at the base of her spine and a spot on her bumcheek.

I am english and DP is Hungarian. He had one too but it went before he started school, not sure about his brothers and sister.

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CoteDAzur · 14/01/2009 11:42

purpleflower - I heard & read that Hungarian is very similar to Turkish and there are other similarities between two ethnicities.

no5 · 14/01/2009 20:09

Cote, I just wanted to point out Mongols werent from Turkic tribe. There is no evidence that Mongols were originally from Turk. Mongolic and Turkic language is from hypohtetic Altaic language group. Altai is mountain range mostly located in Mongolia,Russia,China, Kazakstan,which known Turks birth place. In that part of Mongolia lives Kazahs(0,3% of population) live,and according to archive they were came from China as refugees.

DisenchantedPlusBump · 14/01/2009 20:11

My son has a large blue spot on his side and 2 smaller 'thumb-print' ones on his bottom. Both mine and DH's family are white british, and we have traced history and can't find any ethnic family members either.

DH always jokes DS isn't his because of it

DisenchantedPlusBump · 14/01/2009 20:12

And DS is 2.5 now and it hasn't faded at all!

CoteDAzur · 14/01/2009 20:48

no5 - Afaik there is ample 'evidence', especially genetic, but also historical and linguistic.

Both languages are part of the Ural-Altai language group, and I know what Altai mountains are, would you believe Our history & legends are laden with that part of the world.

If this is a subject you are interested in and have previously researched, I would be interested in talking about it (probably not on this thread, though).

FAQtothefuture · 14/01/2009 20:54

all 3 of my DS's have got one - all in the same place too - none have faded - even DS1's (8) is still really obvious (well if you know where to look LOL)