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Anyone's child had measles despite already having had one or two MMR? How bad was it?

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TotalChaos · 23/12/2008 11:39

Reason I ask is that DS (one MMR 3 years ago) was DXed by GP with measles last week after a rash on his face. Practice nurse is now casting doubt on the measles DX as he has been so well with it (just had rash on face and neck/back and some cold symptoms/loss of appetite). So I just wondered where practice nurse is likely to be right....

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LedodgyChristmasjumper · 23/12/2008 11:41

No perosnal experiene but have heard that you can still get it one vacinated but it is often a much milder case as your ds seems to have proven.

herbietea · 23/12/2008 11:43

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TotalChaos · 23/12/2008 11:43

Thanks Ledodgy - that was always what I had heard (including from other health professionals) too. If anyone really expert sees this - 4 days before the measles rash, DS was playing with a little friend who had just had MMR that day - presumably there is no chance she could have passed it on to him, and that is just coincidence?

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TotalChaos · 23/12/2008 11:44

thanks herbie. Practice nurse is going to take a swab, and result of that shall be back in a month, so eventually I should get a yes/no answer.

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Seona1973 · 23/12/2008 13:08

any rashes you get from the MMR cannot be passed onto anyone else so the friend wouldnt have been able to give anything to him and certainly not if they'd only been vaccinated that day. Re: the vaccine itself - about 10% of children dont get immunity from the first injection which is why they give the second one before they start school as that picks up some of the ones that didnt get immunity from the first one.

TotalChaos · 23/12/2008 13:13

thanks Seona.

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nymphadora · 23/12/2008 13:25

Both my dds had mild version of measles after MMR. Dd1 only had rash , then dd2 had rash + mild symptoms.

believer07 · 23/12/2008 20:14

The MMR is a live vaccine and can shed, that means that those who are close to a recently vaccinated person who is suceptable could get it from the vaxed person. I can give some info on this, i think its even stated on the leaflet that goes with the MMR that the rubella part can shed.

Most people who get measles are vaccinated up to some point. I got whooping cough and was vaccinated and I did not get a mild dose either, 6 weeks in bed, the whole of the summer holidays.

believer07 · 23/12/2008 20:14

The MMR is a live vaccine and can shed, that means that those who are close to a recently vaccinated person who is suceptable could get it from the vaxed person. I can give some info on this, i think its even stated on the leaflet that goes with the MMR that the rubella part can shed.

Most people who get measles are vaccinated up to some point. I got whooping cough and was vaccinated and I did not get a mild dose either, 6 weeks in bed, the whole of the summer holidays.

onepieceofbrusselssprout · 23/12/2008 20:18

My dd1 had her MMR around 15 months iirc. She had measles around the age of 3 (i.e prior to her pre-school boosters)

She was not particularly unwell, thankfully. GP was certain that it was measles. She had a fairly mild rash, bit "off colour" slight temp. She was much worse when she later had chicken pox tbh.

The GP claimed that it was because she had been vaccinated that she had it so mildly.

TotalChaos · 23/12/2008 20:21

Interesting posts, thanks ladies. Sounds like practice nurse may well be wrong then.

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believer07 · 23/12/2008 20:44

A vaccinated child that gets measles gets what is called atypical measles, the rash spreads from the bottom up, wild measles goes from the top down.

The MMR only contains one strain of measles, the jekyl lynn strain i think, there are other strains in differnt jabs. so you are only protected against one strain, so you could still catch another strain. You are supposed to be immune to all measles if you get wild measles.

Onepiecee - that is standard medical lingo for 'our vaccine failed but we are not going to let you know about it' if you have the MMR you are NOT supposed to get measles AT ALL.

What is the point of risking the health of your child by injecting it with virusus aswell as other neurotoxins if you stand more that a small chance of getting any kind of measles.

TotalChaos · 23/12/2008 20:47

Very interesting believer. GP thought that DS didn't have classic measles. But DS's rash started off on face and ears, spread a little to his neck and back, and didn't get much worse after the first day or two.

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onepieceofbrusselssprout · 23/12/2008 20:51

TC dd's rash only lasted around 3 days. It was so mild I can't clearly remember where the rash was - on her chest/tummy I think and not really widespread.

Interesting post from believer.

The trouble with rashes is that they are so hard to identify sometimes. More than once dd has had a viral type rash that comes out alongside a heavy cold. One time it was really bad and I took her to the GP. After one or two doses of antihistamine it had gone. It came back again recently with her cold/fl - really flared up in the bath.

believer07 · 23/12/2008 20:52

MMRII

Giving you this link to the merck pdf file for the MMRII file, this is the file that comes with every dose of the MMRII you should legally be given a copy of this form that outlines the risks and the side effects of the vaccine. We you give your childs arm to be injected it is legal consent that you understand the risks and the benefits of the vaccination your child is about to receive. What happens is that they never show you the sheet or really go into any of the risks. Read it for yourself and you will see the results of some of the tests that they have done. Its a very interesting read if you can be bothered.

TotalChaos · 23/12/2008 20:58

Thanks for the link believer, very interesting, I wasn't even aware that the MMR was a "live" vaccine

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believer07 · 23/12/2008 21:07

No worries.

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