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round sore patches on daughters legs eczema??

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nessiepoo · 24/11/2008 23:17

hello there a few weeks ago i took my youngest (3yrs) to dr as she had circula patches on her legs very dry and scaly, after freaking out and thinking it was ring worm i was told it was eczema, and giving fucsidn and diprobase.
after useing the diprobase it got very angery and spread so i stopped useing it and just used the fucsidin started to clear up but was very dry so i started to use e45 the moment i put it on her she screamed and looked liked she had be burnet so washed off and didnt use again diprpbase now does the same thing. her legs seem worse as nothing is helping any ideas? what it could be and anyone else had same problems?
many thanks

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HangingbaublesofBethlehem · 24/11/2008 23:22

Sounds like discoid eczema, my friends ds has it and I know it's really hard to treat. She has just been referred to a dermotologist and has been given some new cream which she has been told is one up from hydrocortisone as this type of eczema is really tough to treat. Do you think it's worth going back to ask for a referral?

gigglewitch · 24/11/2008 23:23

sounds eczema-like to me
we don't use any of those creams you listed on our dc because they tend to aggravate the problem. As you'll hear on here, it seems to be quite an individual thing as to what works and what doesn't. A couple of things seem to be pretty universal though -
use non-bio washing powder or liquid

don't use conditioner like comfort or lenor

keep them in cotton clothes and bedding.

we only use 'halos n horns' stuff = if anything at all, in baths and hairwashes. Others contain nasties that make the bubbles. We wash ds1 in aqueous cream. works for him.
mine all have food allergies which make their eczema / asthma worse.

nessiepoo · 24/11/2008 23:24

sorry if i babbled lol

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gigglewitch · 24/11/2008 23:24

erm me too

NorthernLurker · 24/11/2008 23:27

My dd has psoriasis and it sounds like that but your dd would be very,very young for it. (dd1 is 10 - 8 when it started) Your dd didn't have a bad sore throat just before you noticed the patches did she?

nessiepoo · 24/11/2008 23:28

wow didnt expect a reply so quick, i have just uploaded to photobucket some pics, im gonna take her back this week poor little thing is in pain

s418.photobucket.com/albums/pp261/vkcarver1983/

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nessiepoo · 24/11/2008 23:30

no the patches have been getting worse for weeks, she had a cold which turned in to a viral rash but thats gone (after freaking out again about measles lol)and she has been in contact with chicky pox so but im puzzled lol

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nessiepoo · 24/11/2008 23:31

what do you think by the pics?

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NorthernLurker · 24/11/2008 23:40

The location of the patches is very similar to where dd1's psoriasis started but I don't think that means anything tbh. Her patches ae very dry if not treated and have silvery scales on them. When treated they go very red but then itch much less. As far as that goes I suppose dd1's patches look rather like your pics but you can't make anything definate from that. I asked about the throat because there is some evidence to suggest that cases can be triggered by streptococcal throat infection - that's certainly what caused dd1's. I hope you get it sorted soon - it's horrible isn't it. Dd1's big problem at the moment is her scalp - very flaky and itchy

Olihan · 24/11/2008 23:52

DS2 has eczema quite badly on his legs and feet, less badly on his arms, hands and face. We've gone through a lot of emollients and bath stuff before we've found the combination that works.

The best solution we found is Fucibet for really bad flare ups (where the skin is very scaly and thickened), Eumovate for milder flares and Hydrocrtisone 0.5% for the odd patches on his face. We use Dermol bath emollient and Dermol lotion to moisturise him, we also cover him in a thick layer of Dermol lotion before he gets in the bath to stop the water drying him out.

He reacts to perfumes in toiletries so we only use Simple shampoo on him and wash his hair just before he gets out of the bath so he's not sitting in the suds. We also only bath him once a week because baths are very drying on their skin, even with all the stuff in the water.

We use Ecover liquid for laundry, I put in about half of the amount the bottle suggests and use the super rinse setting on the machine. Switching to Ecover from Non Bio has helped a lot but ti does take several washes to get rid of any allergens from the old powder, apparently.

I was recommended Pure Potions Skin Salvation balm by someone on MN which is made of Olive oil, Hemp oil and a few other things but it's completely natural with no petro chemicals etc. I first tried it when he was having a bad flare and it seemed to make it worse but the Fucibet/Dermol combo got it fairly under control and I tried it again. This time it's been brilliant. I've been using it for 3 weeks and have only had to use the steroids once in that time. He's never been that long without steroids (previous record was about 3 days, I think) so I'm converted!

I would definitely ask your gp about trying different creams and bath stuff. Mine said they're very cheap so they don;t mind prescribing them.

KatieMorag · 24/11/2008 23:55

your photos look just like my Dh's discoid eczema. you need to go back to your GP as she may need a stronger steroid cream

can you check if your cream is Fusiden or Fusiden H?

she might also need a lotion for the bath

i agree with everyone else about never using soap or shampoo or other products on her and using non bio soap powder on her clothes, bedlinen and towels. if your washing machine has an option for extra rinse you shoudl use this too

nessiepoo · 24/11/2008 23:55

thanks guys im gonna go back and will let you know, i havent changed anything different that i use can it all of a sudden just flare up?

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nessiepoo · 24/11/2008 23:58

fusiden H

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Olihan · 25/11/2008 00:07

I think viral infections can trigger it, from what what I've read. Do you have eczema/asthma/hayfever in your family? Having any of those in the family will make her more predisposed to developing it.

The other thing I meant to say is that the Dermol is anti-pruritic so it stops the itching and breaks the itch/scratch cycle which causes the flare ups. Ds2's eczema got a lot worse with diprobase - went much redder and appeared to itch like fury, judging by the way he scraped his feet against anything he could. I can't remember what's in it but it seemed to be one particular ingredient that was the problem.

nessiepoo · 25/11/2008 00:16

all 3 in family lol, diprobase and e 45 was horrible she was sobbing it looked like i poured hot water over her it was that red, my poor baby bo bo

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Olihan · 25/11/2008 00:24

E45 does that to me when my eczema flares, it really stings.

Can you get to the GP tomorrow? The quicker you can get some moisture back into her skin and reduce the itching the better she will feel.

Poor mite, it's so horrible watching them itching and in pain and being unable to do anything about it.

KatieMorag · 25/11/2008 00:42

the H has a steroid in it as well

it sounds like she defo needs a stronger steroid cream.perhaps a stronger one to get it under control then a weaker one ( i am just going by what Ds gets prescribed BTW i am not a dr )

if i were you i woudl be at gp first thing.

Twinklemegan · 25/11/2008 03:24

I echo what others have said about Diprobase. At best it does nothing, and at worst it definitely makes DS's eczema flare up worse than ever.

Your poor DD - those photos make my heart go out to her. Thankfully DS's eczema is nothing like that bad and we're hoping he'll grow out of it (he's only 2).

Olihan · 26/11/2008 23:26

nessiepoo, how is she? Have you been back to the docs?

Saggarmakersbottomknocker · 27/11/2008 08:58

nessie - dd has had discoid excema. It can be very difficult to shift.

Hope your GP has been helpful - it probably will need hydrocortisone cream initially. We found that Balneum, 50/50 and Aveeno suited dd best. I agree about e45, aqueous and diprobase - crap to be frank and made dd's skin look burned and much worse.
Somtimes it can take a while to find treatments that suit - what works for one child doesn't always work for another.

misdee · 27/11/2008 09:05

looks like dd1 discoid eczema to me. does it itch? dd's doesnt so we just use aveeno for now to keep the skin moisterised.

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