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Original poster

urgent can't give antibiotics to lo..spits it out! urgent!

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bumbly · 12/09/2008 11:56

can you help...little one got bad staph infection, now fever, mother of all colds and also just had mmr

so dead worried

but got to give him this crap antibiotic - why the hell they prescribe the most difficult medicine to give ever i don't know

he keeps spitting it out so so far not had his real dose

have dummy weith plunger, tried spoon, tried syringe but nothing works and he needs his antibiotics!

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GreenMonkies · 15/09/2008 09:31

georgimama

"By bumbly on Fri 12-Sep-08 11:56:28
can you help...little one got bad staph infection, now fever, mother of all colds and also just had mmr

so dead worried

but got to give him this crap antibiotic - why the hell they prescribe the most difficult medicine to give ever i don't know

he keeps spitting it out so so far not had his real dose

have dummy weith plunger, tried spoon, tried syringe but nothing works and he needs his antibiotics!"

"By GreenMonkies on Fri 12-Sep-08 12:07:27
What have you been given? Some antibiotics are truely vile, trimethaprim (the one often given for UTI's) is one of the worst, tastes like nail varnish remover!!

Phone the Dr and say your LO is not tolerating the one you've been given and you need an alternative. They will prescribe you something different."

As you can see both these messages were posted "in hours" when the GP's surgery was open, not out of hours, so that is a red herring!

There was plenty of time to ring the surgery and see if it were possible to get an alternative.

georgimama · 15/09/2008 09:46

Fair enough, I didn't look at the time of the OP, but out of hours provision (which is what we drifted onto) is the same across the country as it is up to each surgery to make provision, and my GP just, hasn't .

georgimama · 15/09/2008 09:47

not the same

Arghh must proof read.

cory · 15/09/2008 10:22

Agree with Georgimama; at my surgery you can't get a prescription on a Friday afternoon; the doctors are simply not there to speak to anyone. And they take two working days for a prescription at the best of times.

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bumbly · 15/09/2008 10:30

tried getting an appointment today as lo not well and worsening and best they could do is tomorrow - that is how crap my gp surgery is

when i was pregnant doc said they couldn't detect good foetus heart beat and they sent me home to mull it over

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RubySlippers · 15/09/2008 10:32

bumbly - if your LO is worsening take him to A & E

don't wait for your GP

Original poster
bumbly · 15/09/2008 10:33

i may have to as think it could be mrsa

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Original poster
bumbly · 15/09/2008 10:34

it is a staph infection and it is not responding to antibiotics

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RubySlippers · 15/09/2008 10:34

Oh BUmbly - if you even think that go straight away

if it isn't then the fact he is not improving needs to be sorted

am sure he will be fine, but pack a bag and go now

SoupDragon · 15/09/2008 10:42

bumbly, Definitely take him in sometwhere if he's worsening. Your GP sound cr*p.

GreenMonkies, you are talking nonsense. You have no idea what GP surgeries are like other than those you have been acquainted with. Don't assume that all offer the same service that yours does.. I suspect the Op knows better than you what hers is like.

CrushWithEyeliner · 15/09/2008 12:22

bambly it is not responding probably because he is not absorbing the full dosage if you are struggling to get it in. I had exactly the same problem - they can give intravaenously if need be; do take him back x

lulumama · 15/09/2008 12:25

bumbly, you and i have 'spoken'lots of times before. it sounds like your DS needs urgent medical attention, i would call NHS direct, who will advise accordingly, or go to your GP and walk in and ask for an appointment, many times i have had v v poorly child, and have gone without an appointment, and have been slotted in...

a staph infection not responding to ABX is serious.

please call NHS direct right now, at the least
, especially if you are not confident in your GP

GreenMonkies · 15/09/2008 12:59

Oh, gosh, are all GP surgeries not exactly the same, really? [drips sarcasm]

Bumbly, take him to A&E, and if your GP surgery won't "fit him in" even though he's getting worse and only very young, then can you change your GP practice? If I ring my GP surgery and say the words "poorly baby" they will either fit us in during the surgery or on the end of the list.

Janni · 15/09/2008 15:02

Bumbly - I hope you manage to get your l.o. seen and treated.

I have what is considered to be a very good GP's surgery.

I also have a three year old with cystic fibrosis who has developed a bad chest infection over the weekend.

I rang her hospital team, they faxed a prescription to the GP. I rang the GP's receptionist. 'It will take 48 hours'.

'But she's got cystic fibrosis and a chest infection, please can you see if it can be done sooner?

'Why didn't you just take her to the hospital?

'Because I would have had to wait ages to see a doctor on one of the wards and because they are happy to change her medication over the phone if I call them'

'I'll have to make an appointment for you to see one of the GP's then'.

So I had to drag my sick child to the surgery, then to the chemist. The chemist can't get the meds till this afternoon and I will have to take my (now sleeping) child out again to get them, in between sorting out my other two children.

Ideally, the GP should have sorted the prescription and faxed it to the chemist - and told me as much when I saw her for all of two minutes.

But you have to get past the bloody receptionists!!

So, Greenmonkies, I for one, do not appreciate your dripping sarcasm or your inference that we can all get our GP's to do what we need when we need.

Sycamoretree · 15/09/2008 15:16

Get him to A&E. It took 4 lots of anitbiotics, the final course making DD vomit before one of our GP's finally, relucatantly referred her to the hospital.

She had a chest x-ray. Oh, guess what, she had pneumonia. She was 10 months old. I could have firebombed the surgery I was SO angry.

LIZS · 15/09/2008 15:28

oh bumbly . Hope you have managed to get your lo seen agan asap.

SoupDragon · 15/09/2008 15:46

GreenMonkies, you really are quite nasty.

SoupDragon · 15/09/2008 15:47

Bumbly, I really hope your DS is getting better treatment now.

RubySlippers · 15/09/2008 15:48

just popped on to this thread - really hope bumbly and her LO are ok

LilRedWG · 15/09/2008 17:51

Bumbly - I've just seen your latest - I hope little one is okay. Update us when you can please. x

GreenMonkies · 15/09/2008 18:14

Janni

Complain!! Not to me, not at me, to the practice manager, and to the hospital team who look after her, and to the PCT. Don't take that kind of shit, especially not in your situation where a chest infection is such a serious thing. Honestly, don't have a go at me take it to the people who can actually do something about it. Ultimately your GP surgery exists to serve you (us, the population) they are not doing you a favour, it is thier job to serve your healthcare needs. Make them do it!!

SoupDragon

I'm nasty?? I've been jumped all over on this thread, despite making suggestions that might have made it easier to get the meds into Bumbly's LO, and you say I'm nasty??

I'm not the problem here, it's a crappy, second rate GP system staffed by self-important receptionists that is the problem. Shouting at me won't make any difference, redirect your bile at those who are actually causing you the problems, and get it changed! I know how shit the NHS is, I work within it, and I now that the only thing that will change it is if enough patients complain (effectively, not by claiming compensation) because if you all throw it the practice manager, or PCT in writing they will have to deal with it.

Janni · 15/09/2008 18:44

You are right, of course GreenMonkies. And now that I have got the medication into my daughter and feel calmer, I realise I have a friend on GP rotation at that surgery, so I will ask her advice on how to get the matter dealt with.

GreenMonkies · 15/09/2008 18:50

I understand your frustration Janni, it's like walking up a down escalator whilst banging your head against a brick wall. Hope she's better soon. (write to the practice manager, and get her hospital team on board too)

babymumof1 · 15/09/2008 19:13

Bumbly

Sorry to hear your little legs is not well i know how hard it is. Mine was very unwell for the first year of his life and thankfully never fought to take any medicine, although now is a different matter.I think one nursery decided on brut force and that is the reason he now will not accept his medicine as he associates it with the brut force.

He has been a little under the weather recently and have been trying to give him some medicine and he will not take it and will spit it out. I mix it with a drop of water or orange juice and he will drink the lot and ask for more.
I would not attempt brut force too many times as it may provide more problems in taking any medicine in the future.
Good luck.

nickleeds · 10/08/2014 13:25

Pinch their nose as you give it them! Might sound weird but it really works!!

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