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Severe Eczema Teenager

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GlitteryUnicornSparkles · 04/04/2025 20:50

I’m hoping someone may be able to offer some advice. Apologies if it’s long I’m just trying to give an accurate picture.

My son has just turned 16. He has a history of asthma (though he seems to be growing out of this) and a long list of allergies.

For many years he’s struggled with heat related itchiness on his hands and feet / ankles such as after a hot bath or shower, or getting too hot in bed (I have the same issue, with my legs), Dr said its quite common and theres a name for it I can’t remember and its not really a concern.

2 years ago he suddenly developed what was diagnosed as eczema on his hands, they were very dry and itchy, his fingers were splitting when he moved them and he was covered in cuts and had removed all the skin up the outsides from scratching. We tried every cream on the market to no avail. Dr’s prescribed emollients to leave on overnight which helped a bit but overtime this extended to his arms. Again the Dr’s tried different creams just reiterating he needs to be using at least 4 times a day including during school which he struggled with a little.

He then started to complain his face and neck were starting to feel dry & irritated, he was told he could use the emollient on his face so he was putting that on at night. We then got a notification that they were changing the brand of emollient but did not say it couldn’t be used on his face. Nothing was helping his arms at this point and he was cut to ribbons, they tried a steroid cream (which states not to use on broken skin on the leaflet) but it made him sting so badly he wouldn’t use it. One night he got hot, the emollient creams were runny and ran / got wiped into his eyes, he had a pretty bad reaction and he rubbed away 8/9 of the 11 layers of his corneas and ended up in A&E having to have anaesthetic eye drops put in every 20-30 minutes due to screaming with pain. He was then referred to an ophthalmologist and had to have drops in his eyes for several months. Whilst he was in A&E he was so irritated and clawing it his skin and bleeding everywhere that a Dr came & prescribed him oral steroids, antibiotics because they said his arms were infected and told him to take piriton on top of his normal antihistamines that he takes for his allergies to help with the itch. They made such a difference but of course as soon as he finished the very short course it all just flared back up. The Dr text to say the new emollient was not safe for use on the face and changed the emollient back!. Prescribed more creams.

He then started with issues on his legs. A dozen trips back and forth to the GP we just keep getting told ‘use them more’. He’s tried steroid creams at low dose that do not help at higher doses sting. He then developed the eczema down his sides. The GPs were of little help. Eventually they referred him to a dermatologist (exactly 12 months ago now).

Over the summer months his skin did improve quite a bit which helped him cope a little.

Come autumn / winter it’s just gone downhill rapidly. He shaved his legs because he thought it would help get the creams on better. After more antibiotics for infection, another dose of oral steroids and multiple weeks of topical steroid things were much improved, until of course he had to stop the steroids again, even though he weaned down strengths. We keep getting turned down for repeat prescriptions of standard cream too because he’s ‘using too much cream’ its a bloody battle to get enough.

At this point he was getting upset because some days he physically could not shower for the pain and wouldn’t leave the house without showering. Sometimes the irritation is so bad he’s punching walls out of frustration. He’s had a tonne of time off school. He’s doing guitar and engineering at GCSE, two subjects he loves but heavily involve using hands which he struggles to do. He was / is barely sleeping so was / is constantly tired and was put on prescription strength / addictive antihistamines to try help with the itching and to help him sleep but they did nothing. The GP wrote an exopodite letter to the Dermatologist in December.

In Feb my mum paid for him to see a private dermatologist who prescribed the tiniest tubes of Protopic given the size of area to use twice a day, however he’s been told he needs to cover up and stay out of the sun because the cream increases the risk of cancer - awesome just as we are heading towards summer. Its done nothing and his skin is getting worse.

We are now at a point where it’s literally his whole body. At home he won’t wear clothes because he says it hurts when they touch or rub against his skin. Some days the thought of showering makes him upset because it hurts so much. He barely leaves his room for this reason and has missed a tonne of school due to the same. He’s not only sore but very self conscious of how bad his face & hands look. He no longer goes out socialising with friends, doesn’t want to attend prom etc. He just sits in his room covering himself in creams when hes not in school. He’s perpetually in a bad mood because he's sore, irritated and tired which makes homelife stressful as does everything he touches being covered in greasy slime. I’m constantly having to walk round wiping everything he’s touched.

He showers once a day, he uses very cool / cold water. He uses prescription shower cream. He’s on antihistamines. We’ve replaced his bed, mattress, duvet and pillows and they are all anti-allergy & have anti-allergy protectors. The emollients make his bedding disgusting and thick with slime so he washes / changes sheets every few days. Everything is washed at 60 degrees c. We tried changing to non-bio washing tabs and removing fabric softener of any kind hes only getting worse. It’s having a massive impact on us both mentally as well as him physically.

We finally have an appointment with an NHS dermatologist in 3 weeks. I’m worried that all they are going to do is prescribe more bloody creams and turn us away.

Has anyone found something that actually helps or can advise on things to discuss with the dermatologist because this last two years has been pretty awful. He’s had other health issues on top of this so its all just getting a bit too much.

Sorry if I’ve rambled. Thank you if you made it to the end.

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Ihatelittlefriendsusan · 21/07/2025 11:35

The original condition you referred to i believe is urticaria. My dd has it along with chronic eczema.

She has been on methotrexate for over 6 years, it was a game changer originally but has started to lose its effectiveness.

The dermatologist should do patch tests, eczema isn't caused by allergies but it is exacerbated by them (your private guy is a twat to have said otherwise). Dd has had it since she was 8 weeks old, she is 12 soon so I have become a bit of an expert.

But you will need to fight hard because their first thing will be to repeat the creams as they can offer lots that are beyond a GP's remit to prescribe.

My suggestions for the NHS appointment....

  1. make a comprehensive list of all the treatments you have used so far
  2. take photos with you of it at is worst
  3. take a very close look at history and what triggers it to be worse
  4. if the creams caused the issues on his face and eyes do not permit wet & dry wrapping. Icthamel paste (the stuff in the tubigeip style bandages) caused a massive reaction for dd and caused the new skin below the flaky eczema skin to basically burn

Good luck! Feel free to pm me if you want any support

GlitteryUnicornSparkles · 21/07/2025 13:04

@PurpleThistle7 thank you for your input I appreciate you sharing your experience. My Mum mentioned tomatoes in relation to arthritis and mentioned cutting them out but when I googled it most sources seem to say it’s a myth with no scientific backing. He bloody loves strawberries too! The current Dr indicated that if it were food related he’d have gastric issues too. I did ask about food tolerance testing anyway though as lots of people have mentioned things like dairy but when I suggested trying to cut that out ourselves he was having none of it! I will try and convince him that he just needs to give these things a go.

@Ihatelittlefriendsusan I appreciate your advice also. A few people have mentioned urticaria but the symptoms on google don’t quite seem to match as he doesn’t get any sort of rash, bumps or hives at all which seem to be the key defining characteristic or urticaria so I’m not sure thats what it is.

Photo’s and creating a list of everything are great ideas, I will do this. With regards to flairs and triggers we’ve been wracking our brains and as yet can’t pinpoint anything because there aren’t individual flair ups as such it’s just constant. The only thing we have noticed is that it does seem to improve some during the summer months / nicer spells of weather especially if you can get him outside. I recon if we moved to a warmer country he’d possibly be cured but sadly thats completely unrealistic.

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Ihatelittlefriendsusan · 21/07/2025 13:21

Urticaria when combined with eczema doesn't present the way it looks like Google images! It's more about the stimulus that causes it if that makes sense.

If its constant then ypu are not getting to the bottom of clearing it. Has the dr said tononly use the steroid cream for 3 to 5 days by any chance? And are you following that?

I ask because that is what gp told me and we could never get it under control. Dd is under a specialist children's hospital due to the severity of hers, and her consultant told us to ignore the leaflet and baste in steroids cream every day until the flare up is completely gone. Plaster skin in it and then light cotton pj's at bed time. Then as much moisturiser as often as he can stand and as often as he can manage.

Also what does of antihistamine is he on?

GlitteryUnicornSparkles · 21/07/2025 17:34

@Ihatelittlefriendsusan Thats interesting.

Again, steroid cream usage instructions varied depending on the Dr, what one would say to do another would say absolutely not to do! The longest we were advised we could do at its worst was 2 weeks of a strong cream, dropping to a week of a weaker one then every other day to taper off or to provide maintenance when needed however it never got followed through because his skin was cut to ribbons from all the scratching and so my son couldn't tolerate the stronger creams he said they stung too much and he found just using the milder ones didn’t really make much difference. Depending on the Dr the advice whether to put it on before or after an emollient also changed! We’d get told one way then another Dr would tell is its wrong!

Antihistamine wise he was already on 10mg of Cetirizine daily so they kept him on that and said he could take a Piriton on top but they did nothing. At one point because he really couldn’t sleep they gave him one with strong drowsy effects but said it was highly addictive and would only give him a week supply but I can’t remember what it was called but he said it didn’t help the itch or the sleeping. The dermatologist has now put him on 180mg of Fenofexadine twice a day which for the first couple of weeks he said made a big difference but after that he said they seemed to stop having the effect that they were.

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PurpleThistle7 · 21/07/2025 19:08

So my daughter is on 10mg ceterizine 4 times a day - obv don’t do this without a doctor’s advice but that’s helped us a lot. Plus the drug for the urticaria as the other person mentioned.

Ihatelittlefriendsusan · 21/07/2025 19:15

PurpleThistle7 · 21/07/2025 19:08

So my daughter is on 10mg ceterizine 4 times a day - obv don’t do this without a doctor’s advice but that’s helped us a lot. Plus the drug for the urticaria as the other person mentioned.

Yeah our GP was similar as in depended on who you saw. However, her consultant has stated to use it until the flare up subsides before switching back to maintenance with moisturiser.

But as with @purplethistle7 My dd is on 40-60mg of ceterizne every day along with vitamin d and folic acid which has helped.

We are being guided towards moving off methotrexate and onto duplimdab and there are some other available once she turns 12, but the advice you have been given is correct. They won't go on to these stronger meds unless they have tried and failed with at least 1 immunosuppressive treatment.

If summer helps him have you considered light therapy? We were offered it but it was too detrimental to her education and my work as inwas a single parent at the time. But if summer and the warmer weather/sunshine helps it might be worth a try. You can rent them but they are essentially a sunbed so maybe try him with a sunbed/shower for a few minutes at a time and see if it helps.

GlitteryUnicornSparkles · 21/07/2025 19:52

Ihatelittlefriendsusan · 21/07/2025 19:15

Yeah our GP was similar as in depended on who you saw. However, her consultant has stated to use it until the flare up subsides before switching back to maintenance with moisturiser.

But as with @purplethistle7 My dd is on 40-60mg of ceterizne every day along with vitamin d and folic acid which has helped.

We are being guided towards moving off methotrexate and onto duplimdab and there are some other available once she turns 12, but the advice you have been given is correct. They won't go on to these stronger meds unless they have tried and failed with at least 1 immunosuppressive treatment.

If summer helps him have you considered light therapy? We were offered it but it was too detrimental to her education and my work as inwas a single parent at the time. But if summer and the warmer weather/sunshine helps it might be worth a try. You can rent them but they are essentially a sunbed so maybe try him with a sunbed/shower for a few minutes at a time and see if it helps.

We had considered Phototherapy, (I did mention it in an earlier post), however you have to be free of creams for at least 2 hours prior to a session and one of the initial side effects is drying of the skin. His skin was already excessively dry & cracked and he couldn’t go more than 10 minutes without applying cream or having a meltdown so we decided it wasn’t the ideal option to start with. He has been told he must avoid the sun and wear sun screen even on a bright but cloudy day and must not undertake phototherapy or use any sort of sun-bed even for a short time whilst on the current treatment as his cancer risk will be significantly increased. Previously he had been prescribed pro-topic cream and was told the same in regards to that as it is also an immune suppressant. It’s certainly not something we would rule out trying in the future though.

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Ihatelittlefriendsusan · 21/07/2025 20:08

Sorry I must have missed that.

Have you been recommended this https://amzn.eu/d/iNOxpP6 it was developed by a dermatologist who used to work with the team who treats my dd, we haven't tried it yet but its on my wishlist to order before we go away next month, but it came highly recommended by our systemic nurse.

It's such a minefield, you ds has my sympathy. We are lucky that dd is vastly improved but I remember the years of her begging me not to do x or y, her promising me that she would be a good girl and never be naughty again if I could just make the pain/itch stop.

What have they given him to wash with? We have dermol which has helped. Especially when her skin is bad and broken.

dd is at an age where she is noticing not being "normal" and doing the make up, smellies, face masks etc that her friends do so we are currently navigating the minefield of make up etc.

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PurpleThistle7 · 21/07/2025 21:00

@Ihatelittlefriendsusan yeah my daughter is 12 and we have a massive minefield. Took a while just to find pads that weren’t awful. It’s slightly ‘easier’ in that my daughter is also autistic so isn’t hugely bothered by trends and such but it’s sad when she can’t go get her nails done with her friend or have a sleepover without a massive palaver around detergents and such.

Ihatelittlefriendsusan · 21/07/2025 21:07

PurpleThistle7 · 21/07/2025 21:00

@Ihatelittlefriendsusan yeah my daughter is 12 and we have a massive minefield. Took a while just to find pads that weren’t awful. It’s slightly ‘easier’ in that my daughter is also autistic so isn’t hugely bothered by trends and such but it’s sad when she can’t go get her nails done with her friend or have a sleepover without a massive palaver around detergents and such.

You might be my most favourite mumsnetter! No one irl gets it.

Dd also has a hyperactive immune system so she can go into anaphylaxis with no known cause. Certain air pollutants trigger her, but all sorts of foods too. She is violently allergic to citrus fruits so going to anyone's house is a huge dilemma.

I hate that she can't be normal. I'm dreading periods...that's a whole other stress over fabrics against her skin etc. I am trying with reusable pads or period pants but they dont make them as shorts for kids and she cant wear knickers as she's hyper sensitive to the elastic against her skin

PurpleThistle7 · 21/07/2025 21:28

@Ihatelittlefriendsusan yeah. The sensory stuff and the allergies and the eczema. It’s all conflicting needs and exhausting requirements and i am pretty tired. After many options we found the lil lets to be best as any adult sized options just rub oddly and she couldn’t cope with reusables (though she does use period pants to double up - could try sizing up maybe?) She is also a dancer so that’s a whole other issue. I just wish she could run around on the grass and adopt a kitten and eat whatever she wanted and wear whatever she liked. It has taken over a lot of my mental energy to be honest and I know my son doesn’t get half as much time as she does. Deep sigh.

Ihatelittlefriendsusan · 21/07/2025 21:55

PurpleThistle7 · 21/07/2025 21:28

@Ihatelittlefriendsusan yeah. The sensory stuff and the allergies and the eczema. It’s all conflicting needs and exhausting requirements and i am pretty tired. After many options we found the lil lets to be best as any adult sized options just rub oddly and she couldn’t cope with reusables (though she does use period pants to double up - could try sizing up maybe?) She is also a dancer so that’s a whole other issue. I just wish she could run around on the grass and adopt a kitten and eat whatever she wanted and wear whatever she liked. It has taken over a lot of my mental energy to be honest and I know my son doesn’t get half as much time as she does. Deep sigh.

I hear ya. Dd is also a dancer. We are lucky that her dance principal is amazing and make up literally goes on just before she goes on stage and comes off as soon as she is done.

We have lilets teens ready and waiting and the rest we will fumble through when the time comes i guess.

If you ever need a mum who gets it feel free to dm me!

GlitteryUnicornSparkles · 22/07/2025 01:12

@Ihatelittlefriendsusan @PurpleThistle7 Thats so tough, hats off to you both. I guess I’m ‘lucky’ in that at least I have a boy, no make up or period product issues to deal with.

@Ihatelittlefriendsusan You deserve a medal, the hyperactive immune system sounds hellish, I think I’d be a complete wreck.

I haven’t heard of that sun screen before but it sounds fab and the reviews seem good too, thanks for the recommendation. We are due to go to Wales at the end of next week and nice weather (hopefully) means sitting on the beach, paddle-boarding and kayaking or climbing the cliffs to seal watch so I will definitely get some of this to take with us.

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Ihatelittlefriendsusan · 22/07/2025 06:48

GlitteryUnicornSparkles · 22/07/2025 01:12

@Ihatelittlefriendsusan @PurpleThistle7 Thats so tough, hats off to you both. I guess I’m ‘lucky’ in that at least I have a boy, no make up or period product issues to deal with.

@Ihatelittlefriendsusan You deserve a medal, the hyperactive immune system sounds hellish, I think I’d be a complete wreck.

I haven’t heard of that sun screen before but it sounds fab and the reviews seem good too, thanks for the recommendation. We are due to go to Wales at the end of next week and nice weather (hopefully) means sitting on the beach, paddle-boarding and kayaking or climbing the cliffs to seal watch so I will definitely get some of this to take with us.

But you have shaving...after shave etc to navigate. There are issues regardless, and you sound like you are still in the early days of your journey. It's bloody hard work all the time! Once they find a regime that helps you son it will get a bit easier, but finding what works is a long old slog.

Just know you are not alone!!

MysticHalfWitch · 22/07/2025 08:44

God love him. As a lifelong eczema sufferer ask for Dupixent. It’s a game changer. You might have a battle on your hands as they’ll want him to try methotrexate first. I could cry for him, it’s such horrible debilitating disease.

I don’t know where you are, but if you’re anywhere near the north east ask for Rob Ellis at Darlington, that man has changed my life.

MysticHalfWitch · 22/07/2025 08:56

Sorry; I read and posted without reading the rest of the thread. I now have and want to scream for you both. That was my experience for 10 years until I met Rob at 40. I had bad eczema as a child but it improved a bit, only to come screaming back in later life. Keep pushing for Dupixent (Dupimilab). It’s because it’s so expensive they don’t like to prescribe. Rob Ellis actually understands how debilitating and exhausting it is to live with this condition, he is excellent and does obviously have to follow the guidelines, but he HEARS you and understands. I sobbed with relief after speaking to him the first time.

GlitteryUnicornSparkles · 22/07/2025 12:53

@MysticHalfWitch I asked about the Dupixent but was told he has to try an immune suppressant first. We were given the choice of Methotrexate or Cyclosporin, from a health / safety point we would have preferred to do Methotrexate but ended up going with Cyclosporin just because it is supposed to take a lot less time to see results (potentially from as little as a few days vs. the 12-24 weeks for Methotrexate), he started it on Sunday. The last Dr said he can stay on it for 18 months then move onto Dupixent if he needs to however the most recent Dr seems to want to get him off it as soon as possible, locate triggers and rely solely on an avoidance strategy. So I guess we’ll have to see how it plays out for now.

Funnily enough we used to live in the North East, I always tell DS that he’s technically a geordie as he was born in Newcastle / Durham. However it’s a long way from where we now are in the North West.

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GlitteryUnicornSparkles · 22/07/2025 12:56

Ihatelittlefriendsusan · 22/07/2025 06:48

But you have shaving...after shave etc to navigate. There are issues regardless, and you sound like you are still in the early days of your journey. It's bloody hard work all the time! Once they find a regime that helps you son it will get a bit easier, but finding what works is a long old slog.

Just know you are not alone!!

He can just grow a beard! 😂

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Ihatelittlefriendsusan · 23/07/2025 10:13

GlitteryUnicornSparkles · 22/07/2025 12:56

He can just grow a beard! 😂

Haha bless him.

My order of that suncream arrived yesterday. We are off to the seaside on Sunday weather permitting so I will let you knownhownshe gets on with it. But being me i have tried and bit on me today and its ever so light, not greasy like some of the big brands and soaks on really quickly. It also doesn't have that rank smell that some have! Kinda smells like e45 used to 🤣🤣

@mystichalfwitch Have you ad any issues with your eyes since being on the duplimdab? My dd has had zero side effects on methotrexate and for 6 years it has been amazing but she is at the max dose for a kid and way off the weight for the adult dose, she is almost 12 but just under 4 stone at 150cm (very petite frame and bone structure, a dancer and tennis player and never sits still) and no waybisnshe gonna suddenly jump up in weight unfortunately. They are suggesting we consider it but the eyes thing really worries me.

MysticHalfWitch · 23/07/2025 10:15

@Ihatelittlefriendsusanno problems with my eyes at all. The only thing I get every now again is facial flares, which can be a pain in the arse but they think they’ve found a link between yeast or something, so I use canesten for a few days, or some protopic, and it clears it right up.

Ihatelittlefriendsusan · 23/07/2025 10:21

Thanks.

She is so young and has been through so much with it already, I am wary of changing up! She has absolutely bossed the self injector pens and has done for the past 3 years. She never let's it stop her. She did her recent dance show and then exams with skin peeling off and looking like she had bathed in acid, she was barely able to walk at points as the backs ofbher knees were so raw. But to have seen her walk ontonthat stage or into that exam you wouldn't have known there was anything wrong with her

PurpleThistle7 · 23/07/2025 10:31

@Ihatelittlefriendsusan we really do have an awful lot in common!

OchreSwan · 23/07/2025 11:43

OP I appreciate your derm has told you it’s caused by genetics rather than allergies, but just wanted to throw my hat in the ring in case it helps as it sounds so horrible for your poor son.

When I was a teenager suffering badly with eczema we happened upon a suggestion that it could be caused by an overreaction to plants from the belladonna family - potatoes, tomatoes, peppers etc. I cut them all out completely and it cleared up my eczema pretty much immediately. Stayed off them all for about a year and then slowly started reintroducing them to my diet. I’m now completely fine with them all again and haven’t suffered badly with eczema for 15 years despite having had it for my entire childhood. Occasionally get small patches now if I’m stressed but nothing like the hell it used to be. Could be worth a try.

GlitteryUnicornSparkles · 23/07/2025 17:24

@OchreSwan Yes, someone else mentioned this too, dairy has also been mentioned a few times. He’s pretty resistant to dietary changes but I will discuss this with him.

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GlitteryUnicornSparkles · 24/07/2025 14:34

So I’m really quite annoyed today, the whole system is a farce!

Having waited since Monday for the call back in regards to an appointment I have today called to chase up what is happening. The lady still had not heard from management and said she would call them and phone me back shortly. She returned my call to tell me that there are no clinics running on the weekend he is due back in so she can only fit us in (by double booking us meaning we could be waiting around for quite some time and delaying the clinic for others) either the weekend before whilst we are on holiday or the weekend after, a week after running out of meds. I asked why they couldn’t double book us on a weekday to prevent meds running out and was told that we are under the locum clinic which only runs on weekends and I can’t change to a none locum clinic without a whole new referral and going back to square one, even though when I called on Monday they offered an appointment on the 14th (which we declined because it wasn’t soon enough) which is a weekday!!! 🤬. I swear they make it up as they go along. I queried if the Dr can write him a prescription for the extra week and was told no because he is new to treatment so he has to have several adequate blood test results under his belt before they can do that as per NICE guidelines so he’ll just have to go without the meds for a week, so any benefit he has gotten by that point will probably be completely undone by the follow-up. I’m seriously contemplating speaking to PALs again. It’s an absolute joke.

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