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Seizures help.

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Hocuspocushyperfocus · 16/12/2024 11:04

Hello,

My dc (4) ended up in resus on Monday after having a status epilepticus seizure in school (20 minutes stiff / shaking / not responding whilst waiting for an ambulance) and another in resus (ten minutes)/ she was unresponsive for a total of eight hours. Even after the medication in resus she took a while to come round.

She had another mild absence seizure on the Tuesday and we had a eeg on Friday which was inconclusive & a CT scan which was clear, all bloods normal. We've been given rescue medication (midazolam) and told we are under a referral to see the neurologist.

This weekend she's had four more but thankfully all under 5 minutes- mainly slumping, side gaze & eye rolling and not responding to name. She had one during the night when she was stiff as a board and hands curled up by her chest. Managed to record the end of that seizure.

My question is...what should we be doing? I feel very lost and out at sea - we telephoned the 24 ward access line when she had the weekend seuziures but as she recovered well (a little groggy!) There wasn't anything they could do. I feel incredibly nervous and worried, we have a baby monitor for the evenings but Is there anything else I can do? I feel permanently sick.

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Unseenentity · 16/12/2024 11:14

If you are on waiting list for a seizure disorder (especially if already having had an EEG), it is likely appropriate for you to contact the epilepsy consultant / specialist nurses directly if there are new events. Did you get any contacts for them? If not maybe track them down via hospital switchboard / Paeds secretaries?

Hocuspocushyperfocus · 16/12/2024 11:21

Unseenentity · 16/12/2024 11:14

If you are on waiting list for a seizure disorder (especially if already having had an EEG), it is likely appropriate for you to contact the epilepsy consultant / specialist nurses directly if there are new events. Did you get any contacts for them? If not maybe track them down via hospital switchboard / Paeds secretaries?

No the ward team just said someone will be In touch in the next few weeks. When I phoned back yesterday to say she had three more they said they've logged it on her notes and have pulled the telephone appointment to Monday...I'm not even sure who is phoning me or when!

They did mention a specialist nurse is going into the school to demonstrate how to use the rescue meds.

Thank you ill give the switch board a ring today.

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Peanutssuck · 16/12/2024 11:28

Been here, seen it, done it...still here 😢 It's the most terrifying thing I've witnessed so u have my sympathy. You should be referred to a "First Fit" clinic within a certain time frame of the first seizure (I think its a month). Make a note of every time she has a seizure, and if she's at home, ring 999. Keep on at the hospital for a date for the first fit clinic. "Next few weeks" is unacceptable

Hocuspocushyperfocus · 16/12/2024 11:53

Thank you it's awful isn't it? The one prior to the ambulance arriving was terrifying it was like witnessing something from a horror movie. It was awful watching all the hospital staff say her name over and over asking her to open her eyes / squeeze their hands. She was paralysed down the left side for 45 minutes and their original thought was a stroke. Awful. I'm really worried its going to happen again

Should I ring 999 even if she comes round? Yesterday she was really quiet / not herself for a good hour after staring / eye rolling/ face twitching in the car - like she had a few too many to drink. I just don't feel that I got much information on discharge from the hosptial apart from if she has a seuziure longer than 5 minutes, administrate the medication and call an ambulance....they didn't even give me signs to look out for! I've noticed just before her seizures at the weekend she says "it's smells. Smell bbq sausages." Is that normal? Her memories gone funny too - forgotten the name of the pet cat (Sam she called her nimby) , when we got home she looked at the picture of her and her friends from school on her bedside table and couldn't remember their names said I don't remember. oh umm my friend um Ivvery? And um Nalla. These are two very close friends who are called Claire and Beth. I've asked her again and she just laughed and said I don't remember.

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BadSkiingMum · 16/12/2024 12:04

I can’t add much to what has already been said but wanted to give my full and sincere sympathies, it is horrible to witness.

There may be some useful information on the Young Epilepsy or Epilepsy Action websites. They also have helplines. But my advice is avoid random web-searching as you may encounter worst-case scenario information that would be very unhelpful to you at present.

BadSkiingMum · 16/12/2024 12:06

To add, keeping notes of the timing, symptoms and events of seizures is important and will be useful information to share with doctors.

Hocuspocushyperfocus · 16/12/2024 12:39

Thank you - I've just had a call of the epilepsy nurse - the ward staff hadn't passed on the telephone calls and the information I gave over the weekend. So he's asked me to send the videos across and then he'll phone me back this afternoon. I'm now fretting the videos aren't enough (we've been very indecisive on what a seuziure looks like sometimes it's just a few odd moments with her hands and twitching!)

Thank you so so much

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Peanutssuck · 16/12/2024 14:17

I would ring 999 regardless. A paramedic will arrive before an ambulance anyway. They will do observations on her before they decide if she needs to be taken into hospital. Unfortunately my DD has always been taken in after seizures. And as horrible as it is, absolutely video her. It's the first thing I do now...as much as you feel in yourself that its not the right thing to do, it absolutely is with this condition. The consultant will need to know what happens whilst your DD is in a seizure state. The buccal midazolam needs to be given if the seizure is longer than 5 mins long. This is in my DDs case, and I'm not sure if that's the same for everybody, so please do check with consultant. I'm not a GP. The sooner they start her on medication the better. It gives some peace of mind. It's like living with a time bomb.

Peanutssuck · 16/12/2024 14:20

Sorry, just seen that they've said the same to you regarding the buccal. I think smells are a key part of the start of a seizure btw, though unfortunately with my DD she doesn't get any warning.

Hocuspocushyperfocus · 16/12/2024 21:22

Thank you everyone whose replied - it means a lot to have someone who understands / been there and is just there
She's been okay-ish today, zoned out once whilst talking to my mum but came back out quickly. Then tonight the monitors captured a big convulsion happened twice then she went back to sleep. Sent it to the team straightaway, I'm meant to be back at work tomorrow but honestly I'm worn out with worrying.

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Vimaybe · 16/12/2024 21:35

I've always found the epilepsy society a really helpful website for both you and any other caregivers she has, including school. In terms of what you need to be doing: record all timescales of seizure, what she looks like prior/during/after seizure and keep her in safe place so she can't accidentally hurt herself. In the mean time I'd be calling the neurology department every time she has a further seizure, so they can keep it on her file if nothing else.

I've had epilepsy since I was 5 (not trying to diagnose your daughter just sharing insight) and I've always just wanted reassurance from those around me, a kind word/a hand hold etc can give a huge amount of support which I don't think people always see when they're panicking themselves. Also I've always found the specialist nurses really knowledgeable for more practical day-to-day advice.

Send love to you and your family ❤️

MyOtherCarIsAPorsche · 16/12/2024 22:09

My daughter doesn't ring an ambulance for small seizures. It's written on an epilepsy passport when to ring an ambulance. For my grandson it's after 3 consecutive short duration seizures or one seizure lasting more than 5 minutes. Rescue meds are to be given on the fourth short seizure or at 13 minutes longer seizure. He's had a ten minute seizure and not been too drowsy afterwards. He's had a couple of consecutive short seizures and slept for a couple of hours - we mostly go with a gut feeling with regard to dialling 999. We know that if we're starting to panic, he needs his rescue medication.

Our grandson is 4 and has been having seizures since birth.

They've changed over the years - he seems to be drug resistant.

He also has his memory wiped out, he's also lost his speech completely a few times. He's now non verbal - he was previously stringing words together but lost it altogether. He says single words if you ask what is that, what do you want to eat. But mainly, he indicates hunger, thirst, loo by signing.

Most recently he has drop seizures where he damages his face/head mostly. He has to be accompanied on stairs now as he's had a few 'drops' whilst climbing them.

He has a camera which records him throughout the night and a wrist band which sends alarms to a smart phone when his vital signs are high. His heart rate is a good indicator of seizure activity. He has his rescue meds stored at nursery school and at home. The first time they are used outside the hospital we were told to wait for the paramedics to arrive to administer them.

He also has a left sided weakness before/during/after a seizure. If he starts to limp we know what to expect. He's had several EEGs at home which can last 2-4 days depending on the amount of activity captured.

We are waiting for genetic/genome testing results.

He's on the maximum amount of medication for his weight - 2 different drugs, but still has several episodes a day. These can be fleeting 'side eyes', drops, hysterical laughter for no reason, tonic clonic. He often tries to grab at invisible objects. He chews the inside of his mouth, moves his tongue from side to side so that it pokes his cheeks, picks his lips, pushes his head against hard objects for comfort - all indications of impending seizure.

The worst is when he goes blue/purple - it spreads across his body. It's horrific - been happening since birth. At first they said he was breath holding - which turned out not to be the case. It's like his brain switches off his breathing - my daughter's neighbour witnessed one of these occurrences as they were on the drive in the car when it happened. He helped to ring the ambulance while my daughter got her son in the recovery position - his wife said he's had flashbacks ever since.

My daughter's greatest fear is being so exhausted that she sleeps through a seizure - there's more activity through the night than during the day. She's constantly checking on him, even when the alarms are quiet. Then she drags herself out of bed and goes to work.

And it always happens when you relax your guard ....

Hocuspocushyperfocus · 18/12/2024 17:00

Hey,

The consultant has overlooked a few of the videos I sent in (eight small videos in total- usually 40 seconds each) and they've booked her in for a sleep eeg for four weeks time.

I'm still worrying and fretting, is what I'm witnessing seizures or not? What If it happens again? Will we get a diagnosis after the eeg or what happens if it's inconclusive again? So many questions!!

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