Baby ignored us tonight, then showed weird body movements (overstimulation or seizure)? - video

[saitnyc]

Wife and I almost cried tonight out of fear after experiencing this.

After enjoying full day with him and all was normal we came back home and before bedtime (he was sleepy) we gave him his books in which he was really engaged and was pointing animals and objects inside it.
Then suddenly we noticed he is not responding his name, we called him maybe 20-30 times in 2 minutes and he was fully ignoring us.
Then my wife took him and he bite her.
Then he lied on the table with legs in the air and was hitting with legs for about 5 seconds.
After that we put him in a bed and he fell a sleep.

I was researching a bit and finding a conclusion that this could be what is called over-stimulation either more dangerous seizure. We are so scared because we never experienced in 13 months since he is born this much of ignorance, and then aggressive behavior.

Please let me know your toughs and experience?
I called pediatrician this morning, they can do a checkup in 2 days and refer to neurologist but till then we cannot do much since per them it is not urgent.
However, I have recorded the whole situation on video so please take a look and let me know what do you think per video and earlier description
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/rQjbmtYDxVo

Hi, I am not a doctor (I am a vet though so have some relevant understanding). My now 13 year old son had absence seizures from 6 months old to 3 years old, then a full seizure at 11 years old.

I think it is difficult to say for sure from the video. Being tired can make a seizure more likely to occur in a susceptible child, so that part would fit, as would the being unresponsive for a short time before the movement started. But the way he gets up so quickly at the end makes me feel less confident of a seizure. How was he after that? Usually after a seizure, a child is a bit disorientated and then sleeps for quite a while (my son always did after his absence seizures).

You have sensibly blurred out his face, but can you see his eyes/mouth in the original video? Are his eyelids partially open? Are his eyelids flickering? Are his eyes moving around in an unusual way? Did his lips change colour?

I wonder what country you are in - I think not UK as we can't self-refer here in the way you mentioned. I would advise taking your son to emergency care if another episode happens, just to get him checked over. Most seizures aren't life-threatening but until you know whether it is a seizure and if so, what the underlying cause may be, I would advise taking him to the emergency room (or similar) for assessment.

As I said, I am not a doctor, these are just my own thoughts.

I'd go to an emergency room or similar. And please take that video off the internet, for your child's privacy.

I have just re-read your post and saw that he fell asleep afterwards. But as it was his bedtime anyway, I guess it's difficult to draw a conclusion.

Why on earth would you put that on YouTube?

Take your child to a qualified medical professional.

Because they are worried, their paediatrician can't see them for two days and they are desperate for help. Try to be compassionate. They have blurred out his face.

He just looks like he is playing? Kicking his legs? I don't see anything worrying?

Because they are worried, their paediatrician can't see them for two days and they are desperate for help. Try to be compassionate. They have blurred out his face“

it’s perfectly visible in the second half.

Seems totally normal to me, but you're getting it checked out so you should have some answers.

To answer all:

-Video is private, only those who have link will see it and it will be removed anyway later

-I posted because we are desperate and pediatrician cannot see us before friday since they say it is not emergency.

-His lips were normal, eyes fully open with one blink in 10 seconds.

-He was tired even before this since it was a naptime and 10pm so that is not relevant.

If he did not ignore us prior to this I would think this is just another baby thing, but ignorance and not responding name in a combination with this is what worries me.

The fact that he was looking animals in the book before this and was not responding his name at all even called 20 times in 1 minute.
Then he put book on a side and did this.

Babies can choose to ignore people too. Plenty of times my kids haven't responded to their names because they're tired or being stubborn. Looks like he just had a little tantrum.

Is this your first child?

it is our first so we dont have any experience, that is why I am asking everything here

Just looks like a tired kid to me being a bit grouchy.

people are wrong to dismiss your concerns but realistically nothing anyone says here can comfort or instruct you. If taking him to your version if A and E is not possible then just keep an eye on him and wait to see your dr. You have good visual evidence in the video so even if the behavior is not repeated you will be able to discuss it with his dr.

I just see an overtired baby/toddler who is reaching the age where they start exerting more independent behaviour, choose to ignore parents and do things like biting because they can't communicate their needs (sleep).

Not a medical expert but mama of four kids.

That video itself wouldn't alarm me - looks like an over tired toddler having a bit of a strop.

However, I would say (and again, I'm not a medical expert!) keep an eye on it and if you have any other concerns definitely go to your doctor. But that video alone looks fairly normal.

I get the worrying though when it's your first child!

I have a DC with epilepsy. That’s a very short video so it’s hard to comment with confidence, but it looks like he’s frustrated and tired. He’s alert immediately after the leg kicking. The thing that stood out most as potentially worrying was the repetitive noise he was making when leg-kicking, but, again, that could be tiredness and frustration.

As you understandably don’t have a video of him ignoring you and your wife, we can’t see the full picture. Children do ignore people and the environment when they’re tired though.

Just keep an extra close eye on him. I hope your appointment goes well and all is ok x