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Keystones in urine, how likely is it diabetes?

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WingingItWith3InTow · 12/09/2021 16:46

Hi,

First time poster here so please forgive me any mistakes xx

I’ve just taken my middle child to the gp as he has started losing control of his bladder. He’s 7. It’s been happening on and of over the last year. He’ll wet his pants or wake up having wet the bed 2/3 times a week. I thought it might be a phase but it’s been going on a while so I took him to the gp as he’s scared he’ll do it at school.

They tested him for a urine infection but that came back negative. They said his keystones were raised so they’d like to send him for a blood test for diabetes. I didn’t really worry thinking surely it won’t be that but then I googled 🙈🙈 dangerous I know.

He drinks ridiculous amounts but he always has and he does get tummy aches once or twice a week but we thought that might be allergies as the gp wasn’t interested at all when we asked about them before.

Can you have raised keystones in your urine and it be normal?

Thank you xxx

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Indiana2021 · 13/09/2021 20:55

I honestly don't think anyone is being nasty OP. You're talking to a variety of people whose children have been dangerously unwell as a result of undiagnosed Type 1.
Please listen. The speed of decline can be rapid so tests done previously by your GP may have had a very different result than one done today.
A hospital won't judge you or think you're wasting their time. They'll test his blood for glucose and you'll know where you stand.
If it's not Type 1 you can come back and tell us all we were wrong.
Type 2 Diabetics often have next to no understanding of the complexities of Type 1, so if your Dad is Type 2, we'll meaning as he may be he'll have no idea of the urgency.

WingingItWith3InTow · 13/09/2021 21:13

He’s just wet his bed again so we are on our way to a&e. Hubby thinks I’m crazy but I’d never forgive myself

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Indiana2021 · 13/09/2021 21:21

Good luck OP. You're absolutely doing the right thing. Hope it turns out to be nothing too serious but lots of support here if you need it Flowers

Plinkplonk1234 · 13/09/2021 21:33

Well done op. It is absolutely the right decision. Best of luck. If you need us we'll be here for a hand hold or to answer any questions. Hopefully you come back and tell us it's all ok. Smile

ZZGirl · 13/09/2021 21:33

Diabetes isn't a totally outrageous thought.
A pupil I know of was diagnosed at 7. Ketones can be worrying. Go to A&E, they won't think it's unnecessary.

ZZGirl · 13/09/2021 21:34

Just saw the update. Sending luck.

Sally872 · 13/09/2021 21:40

Good luck op.

Eloisedublin123 · 13/09/2021 21:56

Good luck op you’re doing the right thing

WingingItWith3InTow · 13/09/2021 22:14

Had his finger pricked and it was 5.9 which is normal. They said keytones with out the glucose is totally normal it’s only not normal if there’s glucose too so they’re dipping his wee and then sending us home. now we just have to tackle the bladder control issue.

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MsMMarple · 13/09/2021 22:21

So happy to hear this. Really glad for your DS and you.

Eloisedublin123 · 13/09/2021 22:35

Great news. My dh has type 1 diabetes and I’m really glad your son doesn’t xx

Indiana2021 · 13/09/2021 22:55

Brilliant news OP Smile

Brigittebidet · 13/09/2021 23:00

So glad for you it’s not that, but also glad you went. My DH also thought I was crazy taking out DS in as he wasn’t “ill”. Mumsnet persuaded me as well and my DS had blood sugar levels of 29.7. I’ve never been so sorry to have been right in my life.

Plinkplonk1234 · 13/09/2021 23:40

That's great new. I hope you sort out the other issues too. Smile

IfOnlyOurEyesSawSouls · 13/09/2021 23:47

OP i was just coming on to tell you to avoid all the drama llamas !!!

It is not unusual for children to have ketones in urine ... without glucose its not an issue

Indiana2021 · 14/09/2021 00:45

Ifonlyoureyessawsouls
Blimey, bit harsh Hmm
All the 'drama llamas' as you so kindly put it are in the most part parents of Type 1 children who presented with similar symptoms to OPs DC.
Rather a false alarm and a double check than a child in a diabetic coma , but OK, we'll consider ourselves told.
Do you kick puppies in your spare time?

toomuchlaundry · 14/09/2021 00:56

A friend’s DS nearly died due to undiagnosed diabetes. GPs thought it was something else causing the symptoms. Luckily friend’s gut instinct kicked in and she took him to A&E, was told that if she hadn’t done that he would probably have died. So no need for the drama llama comment. Better to be safe than sorry

Plinkplonk1234 · 14/09/2021 01:06

@IfOnlyOurEyesSawSouls

OP i was just coming on to tell you to avoid all the drama llamas !!!

It is not unusual for children to have ketones in urine ... without glucose its not an issue

You're obviously not a parent of a type 1 diabetic or actually know anyone with the disease or you wouldn't consider people who have been through hospitalisations and near death to be 'Drama Llamas'.
cultkid · 14/09/2021 06:09

Op

Thanks for this update, I wasn't trying to be rude

I think you made a good choice to be checked

I hope that your son comes to the bottom
Of the bed wetting. My son is still wetting the bed age 5 but he hasn't ever been dry through the night yet

Sorry if I sounded so harsh

Lots of love xx

WingingItWith3InTow · 14/09/2021 10:08

Thank you everyone.

I’m so relieved it’s not diabetes. My 2 youngest have enough going on without it. Hopefully they can get to the bottom of why he suddenly can’t control his bladder.

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user1471465608 · 14/09/2021 12:33

@IfOnlyOurEyesSawSouls

OP i was just coming on to tell you to avoid all the drama llamas !!!

It is not unusual for children to have ketones in urine ... without glucose its not an issue

This isn't necessarily true. Lack of glucose in urine is not reliable enough to exclude diabetes, especially if there are other symptoms - which is why the hospital checked the finger prick.
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