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8 years old, disordered picky eating, and overweight

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retinol · 04/08/2021 15:13

Hello everyone. I’m coming here today because my boy has disordered eating, and I don’t know what to do. I know I will sound dramatic, but I’m at my breaking point. I’m desperate for a way to help him that doesn’t make him fall into a deeper pit with relation to food— because I myself have been there. I know firsthand what it’s like. He overeats, he’s one of the biggest kids in his class, his self control when it comes to pastry is bare none. He’s been stressed with school and other kids, but as those troubles went away, the disordered eating stayed. I try my hardest to teach him not to eat the bad things in excess, but this negative reinforcement gets me nowhere. I applaud him for healthy food choices, but he still will choose to eat the fritters I made for our entire family all through the night while everyone else is asleep. I feel like I’m at a loss. I would never want him to know what it’s like to not be allowed to eat something, to have food physically locked away. To feel guilt for enjoying to eat. But I feel as if I’m running out of choices. Baking sweets is something I have always loved doing for my family. To stop doing it, at the expense of our other family members who do ask me to bake as well, seems too unfair a punishment for my failure to teach him a healthier relationship with food. I feel so frustrated. There are good examples of healthy eating all throughout the household. Leftover suppers ready for him to snack on have always been a healthy and delicious variation of vegetables. There’s also eggs, which he knows how to boil. There’s fruit as well, but he’s also quite picky. I don’t want him to be orthorexic. But in this desperation and fear for his health, I feel like I must introduce something to help him expand his palette beyond peas and corn. So that he does not choose fried fish or plain porridge as his only food for an entire day. He ate a variety of foods as toddler, and he does have food allergies as well, but 99.999% of everything in the kitchen is edible for him. I don’t want him to be a child who hates his body later on. When we talk about healthy food, he sucks in his stomach. It breaks my heart. I remind him time and time again that his shape is not the issue— it’s the foods he uses to fuel it. We discuss healthy options. That lesson is forgotten the moment he decides to eat 2/3rds the tub of ice cream in the middle of the night. I encourage exercise and always invite him to work out with me on the Nintendo. And he does. He’s great with active play, and loves the park… with his friends. But this can’t be fixed with physical activity anyways, can it? What could I do? He has other health problems as well. I fear more to come if this gets any worse. He cried the other day because he knew the severity of his allergies. I feel stuck. Any advice on how to approach his dietary habits would be greatly appreciated. Any critiques on my parenting here, anything. I need someone to tell me what to do.

I’m hesitant to introduce him to a program or nutritionist because that became part of my problem when I faced this struggle. I along with those like me at that age, watched each other as our eating became a long term problem while we went from correcting our eating to correcting our bodies. When your mind is in that place, no amount of outside support can fix that. For an otherwise mostly healthy boy, introducing another party solely for this purpose would make him extremely self conscious about it, and it’d only get worse if there were no instant results.

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Shitfuckcommaetc · 04/08/2021 15:23

Why does he have access to food overnight? That has to stop.

Drastic, but a lock on the kitchen door overnight would help, you can frame it as it's not fair he's eating everyone's share of the good stuff overnight. Which at 8, honestly is a disapline issue

MrsEko · 04/08/2021 15:24

You aren't stuck you just need to make some changesThanks

The good news is he is only eight so under your control as to what he eats.

You have to clean up your house. It's not unfair on the other members of your household not to have things in that he is likely to want to eat. In fact, it's unfair on your son if you do have those things in the house. And he is the important one here.

And you thinking that it's unfair shows that you think of food as a reward/treat which you need to stop doing.

Get rid of what you have in the house and don't buy or bake anything unhealthy.

You then need to look at portion sizes. He needs to be eating the right amount of food. And good proteins so he isn't hungry.

It doesn't matter if he's not open to eating all different fruits and vegetables. You just need to keep giving him the ones he does like and exposing him to the ones he doesn't over and over again.

Magazines like the ones you get free in some supermarkets are a good way to find new recipes together in a low key way. It really is true that they are more likely to eat things they have helped make.

retinol · 04/08/2021 19:14

Thank you both so much for your responses. I think @Shitfuckcommaetc you’re especially right, it is a discipline issue. I was so afraid to possibly scar him that I gave him too much liberation, much more than a mere 8 year old would require. Including the fairness is something I had honestly failed to reprimand him for, because in my household we often say “We can always make more/There will always be another opportunity” and tried not to be exclusive with food. In the end, it worked to our detriment. You’re brilliant.
@MrsEko Your advice is spectacular. I should never have considered food as a reward for myself or others, and this is something I now see I need to work on. It will be hard because making things for my family is my way of showing appreciation and love, the smiles on everyone’s faces when we share fresh biscuits and the delicious smell that warms the house.. Sad I’ll miss it dearly! But you’re absolutely right. He is the priority, and until he is in a place where temptations are not an issue, I won’t make things harder for him. I will keep him to the healthy foods he likes, and as for assisting in the kitchen he’s occasionally been keen it is one of his picky eater meals. That will take some work to make him more open to it, but I look forward the upcoming changes.

Thank you both so much. I didn’t think I had felt so in need of comfort and understanding, but your words have helped me more than you know. I wish you both the best.

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TiredButDancing · 05/08/2021 12:53

DS was very overweight and it was sort of the same - we just weren't good enough at saying no to him when it came to all the treats and sweets etc. And on top of that, he was a good eater and would eat huge portions of "normal" food which meant his proportions of what he ate were out of whack.

It's not healthy and that was those conversations. DH then helped him to develop a points plan (loosely based on slimming world) whereby he could have a certain number of points in treats (and we identified what counted vs on Slimming world where avocados are bad or whatever. So crisps, chocolate, general snacks counted, but we didn't exclude any fruit/veg etc). Then we upped physical exercise in a very focused way - he did workouts with DH including things like obstacle courses etc. And he was old enough that we allowed him to go to the park to play football with other local children which I think is a great way for longer term fat burning.

Finally, we thought carefully about his food. He had been eating a lot of "child friendly" food - spaghetti bolognaise, and shepherds pie and pasta etc. And because he was a good eater, we realised we needed to shift this so that he was getting a better balance. Mostly this was achieved by getting him to eat with us instead of his younger sister as he was old enough to eat a bit later. So, for example, we'll have tray baked chicken thighs with a few new potatoes and a big pile of tender stem broccoli (my kids definitely prefer this to regular), carrots, baby corn. Or I'll do a stir fry with lots of veg, some steak and serve with rice. Or salmon with noodles and some greens. This part MIGHT be harder for you if he's a bit picky, but I'd agree with a PP, just keep giving him the vegetables he will eat and offering alternatives. But make sure that he's not filling up on carbs - children need carbs, but it should represent 80% of their calories. If he does like things like chicken/fish/meat, let him have bigger portions of that rather than pasta/bread.

The big risk is that you create worrying focus on weight. We've tried really hard but DS has definitely had moments where we've seen red flags over his eating/appearance and his emotional response. But the school has been very supportive and I think it's settling down now. Key has been consistently banging on about health, not weight. I'd also recommend NOT doing any weighing, not least because as he grows, he will put on weight so it's fake. Showing how clothes fit better is a more effective way to show progress I think and less likely to lead to longer term problems (we made this mistake in the beginning by letting him weigh himself and I regret it massively).

And absolutely, if he has a habit of stealing food at night, you need to get rid of those things. If you want to bake, choose to bake in smaller amounts (eg we make chocolate chip cookies but freeze more than half the mixture in balls so that we can make a single cookie per person rather than having 12 lying around for us to eat in 1 day). We also bake things like low sugar "chocolate" muffins (which the kids, bless them, think are cupcakes) or relatively healthy carrot muffins. (PM me if you'd like either recipe.

Good luck. You can turn it around but I completely understand it's a minefield.

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