14 month old rotting teeth help?!

[Ksmum03]

Hey everyone, I'm in desperate need of some advice or information. My son is 14 months old. Since he started teething we've been soo careful to look after his teeth as advised by the NHS. Brush twice daily with a baby friendly toothpaste/brush. He only ever drinks water or breastmilk. Doesn't eat sugary food unless its fruits. So I was devastated to see he has yellow stains on his two front teeth! At first when I noticed but I thought okay let me change the brush and the paste but nothing has worked I also feel a small pit on his right tooth. I called 111 because due to covid-19 no dentist are currently open and they told me it could be enamel hypoplasia but no way of knowing for sure. Please someone help me? Is this enamel hypoplasia or is it florousis? Any help would be great! Thank you

I can barely aee anything tbh. A slight hint of yellow but certainly nothing to worry about.

They look like they may have some mild hypoplasia, or it could be some wear, its a bit difficult to tell looking at the photo. Is this a new development, or have they always looked like that

Either way its nothing to be concerned about at this stage. Make sure you are brushing them well, be gentle with the brushing - sweep dont scrub. Obviously water and milk only to drink and limit sugar to meal times only, I would include fruit in this and any food containing sugar, not just sweets/chocolate. But it sounds like you take good care of his teeth and they look clean

Theres nothing there that needs treatment, its just being extra careful with these teeth as they will be more prone to decay in the future but they arent rotton. You wont be able to remove the yellow so make sure you arent trying to scrub it away as this might damage them!

My sons teeth are like this (but much worse) because he has weak enamel due to me taking antibiotics when I was pregnant with him.

The dentists have just told to make sure he keeps brushing!

My DD has mild enamel hypoplasia, her teeth looked slightly worse than your DS's at that age but there really isn't a lot that can be done. Just keep up good dental hygiene, limit sugar and regular dentist appointments. The same for any other child really. My DD is now 7 and has had to have 1 filling on a baby tooth. She's lost 4 baby teeth so far and the adult teeth have come through perfectly healthy so far.

I would add vitamin drops to his diet (including vitamin D) and limit fruit as it can be acidic. Add veg high in calcium and fortified cows milk / cheeses.

Possibly enamel hyperplasia, my ds2 had it, front tooth was clearly rotten by 3/4yrs old. Dentist said it happens in the womb, no rhyme or reason for it, luckily it was only the one front tooth and luckily his adult teeth came through as normal health you teeth!

It does look like hypoplasia. My dd has it much more severely on her back (milk) teeth. Has he seen a dentist? My dd has hers painted every time she goes (3 monthly) to try and keep them in the best condition they can be.
She's 9 now and her adult teeth have come through fine with no issues except for a small patch of discolouration on her front tooth. She was due to have it covered with a white filling just before lockdown.

Hopefully it will be the same for your dd.

My GD’s front teeth and one next to them came through already decaying. She was breastfed and her teeth were cleaned. My sister’s grandson had the same.

Some children in my family don’t have the best teeth, though I had never seen anything like this. GD had to have the front three out.

Don’t let anyone tell you it’s your fault, it is unfortunate. Other family members in my family have inherited strong slightly gappy teeth that don’t decay.

DD had fluoride treatment put on her DD’s teeth at each visit to the dentist and made sure she didn’t drink sweet drinks including fruit juice. Her front teeth took until she was eight or ten to come through, her second teeth are good.

My youngest DD‘s baby teeth weren’t the best and I was amazed at the amount of fillings she had when quite young, her older brother and sister had teeth that didn’t decay. Same food with me cleaning their teeth until they were older.

Ds sorry

How often does he breast feed and how much fruit?

Baby teeth are very sensitive and some kids have stronger teeth than others. Just do your best, see the dentist when you can and be reassured that they get another set!

Sorry just seen you've tried to see a dentist.
Yy to pp it's absolutely not your fault they have just not formed properly obviously it's super important to limit sugar but nothing you have done has caused this.

@DishRanAwayWithTheSpoon thank you so much for your reply. When they came in I noticed straight away a whiter liner in the middle but just kept up his routine. But it seems have have gotten worse. I will definitely be more cautious to not brush too hard!
Also I've read that using a tooth mousse would help protect and even help restore some protective layer... do you know if this is true or even if it would help?

Thank you!

@Arsed ! Thank you for your reply! Yes my little one was on antibiotics at 3 months... how's your ds dental routine? Have you change anything? Thank you once more

@SuperCraft thank you so much for the reassurance! It really has helped! Hopefully this all clears up so I can get the ds to the dentist!

@GrumpyHoonMain thank you for you're advise I will be sure too! X

@makingmiracles oh it's good to know it all worked out! Thank you for your reply x

@troppibambini thank you for your reply so glad it worked out in the end! Oh that has made me feel a little better how much did it cost? And did you go private or? Thank you once more

@OffThePlanet thank you for your reply! Yes genetics really do play a part!

@AnotherMurkyDay he breastfeeds 6-7 times a day but never during the night. Fruit he loves. It's his favourite snacks so possibly 4-5 times a day. He has a variety. Apple, bananas, berries, tangerines, grapes, watermelon... list is long! But I'll be sure to reduce the more acidic fruits! Thank you for your reply x

It might not be relevant at all, but some days he could be having as many as 12 exposures to sugars every day just from milk and fruit, not including other carby foods which stick to teeth (crisps are the worst!). Does he have a dummy? They can cause lots of dental issues. And does he drink water? By the time we are adults we do a fair amount of "self cleaning" of our teeth naturally, without even thinking about it, but kids don't always do that, so having a few sips of water does a similar job. Plaque loves dry mouths! There are certain antibiotics (taken by the child or during pregnancy) that effect teeth, as well as low vitamins (especially calcium and vit D). But other less obvious causes such as enlarged adenoids (leading to lots of mouth breathing!) can cause issues with teeth too. What toothpaste do you use? Some are better than others, there are some with extra cavity protection.

It's going to be done in the nhs my dentist offered to do it she just said if we wanted to cover it she can do it with a bit of white filling. It's not particularly unsightly it's just a lighter colour.
Dd is on a walk now but if she doesn't mind I will take some pictures and post of her brown teeth and how well her new ones have come through..,
It might put your mind at rest a bit I remember when I first found out about dd I was really upset.

@troppibambini oh that would be great! Yes my husband is more relaxed so he struggled to understand why I was devastated. Oh that's perfect! How much does it cost? I think as mums we tend to worry about school years/ if he causes them pain. But all your replies have made me feel
So much better thank you x

So sorry completely forgot she's in bed but will def do in the morning.

Actually she was still messing about upstairs  so here we go @Ksmum03 you can see what looks like chocolate in her teeth that's the decay so quite bad. The front view are her new teeth and you can see a small whiter patch. It will be free to cover and the dentist will match it to her other front tooth.

I normally recommend tooth mousse for children with adult hypoplastic teeth, ive just had a look and its safe for children under 2 so worth a try.

I think 14 months is too young for flouride varnish, normally you wait until they are 2 and you certainly wouldnt place a white filling on them unless it really needed it from a decay perspective.

Honestly OP its not much to worry about at this stage, just be good with oral hygeine and keep sugar to mealtimes. Make sure they arent having things like dried fruit between mealtimes, and limit snacking on fruit. But breastfeeding is not a problem

Dont fixate on the antibitoics. It could be anything, tetracyclines cause staining but they are banned in children. Theres no real association with other antibiotics.

Remember these teeth will fall out at 6/7. They arent forever

@troppibambini oh thaank you so much!! This really does help! I'm feeling a lot better can't wait to be able to get his little teeth checked out and I'll definitely keep this page posted! You've been so much help. Thank you! X