8 week vaccinations

[Stephshep]

Hi,

My son is 8 weeks old and the docs never made us an appointment for his 8 week jabs. I called up and they had nothing available until he is almost 10 weeks old surely they are called 8 week jabs for a reason and is my child at risk if I leave it until then. Sorry if i seem to be panicing over nothing but hes my first child and i dont have a clue when it comes to vaccines

Any info would be great x

Your child won't be at risk by waiting until he's 10 weeks. The immunisation is for life.

Thanks, i know im more than likely worrying for nothing i just wasnt sure if i would be putting him at any risk by waiting another two weeks. I was worried they would tell me they have to hve it at 8 weeks or it doesnt work as well or something along them lines x

Don't worry at all OP. 10 weeks is absolutely fine. I always run a bit behind schedule with my kids' vaccinations.

Mine didn't have any vaccinations bang on time. 8 weeks is the youngest they can have them.

DS1 had his vaccinations bang on schedule, DS2 was a couple of weeks behind on each as I was flaky busy. Both are fine.

Thanks guys thats put my mind at rest! I was just annoyed with the surgery as if id not of phoned would we just of been forgotten about x

Technically the jabs are for 2 month olds, so 8 weeks is the very youngest they can have them. I had to book all mine etc, they don't check up on you after the last H.V. check, it's pretty much all up to you!

Mine had his 8 week jabs (and his 6 week check!!) yesterday at 11 weeks, as that was the earliest they could fit him in. It's fine. I just havent taken him to any baby groups until he had them.

I dont know anywhere that books them for you, you usually have to arrange them yourself, but theres a schedule in the red book so you dont miss any.

Not much immunity is built from the first jabs due to how the immune system is immature at that age, at least it doesn't last long and takes several weeks for antibodies to build up so a few weeks makes little difference to protection especially at 8 weeks when there's still immunity from mum and breastfeeding. They start them the earliest they can to cover them by having had several sets of jabs by the time that immunity is wearing off. I think some people can be lulled into false security by the first jabs.

I'm glad they've fitted your son in for his vaccinations, I wouldn't worry about them being a couple of weeks 'late' either. I don't understand why you are angry with the doctors though - your child's health is your responsibility until he's old enough to look after it himself. There are health visitors, doctors and nurses there to guide and assist you, but you need to make the appointments.

and im also angry as i have been trying to book him in to see his health visitor but they aren't returning my calls he hasnt had an appointment since he was a few days old

It may have changed but with my son you didn't have appointments you are expected to drop in at clinic?

As bedhair said, you usually drop into a clinic. Google your local children's centre and they might have a time table - or you can call and ask. Usually a baby drop in clinic where you can ask whatever you want

There is no benefit whatsoever to vaccinating infants prior to one year of age. Vaccines are only given to this age group in order to "train the parents".

preventdisease.com/news/14/111014_Pro-Vaccine-Immunologist-Admits-No-Scientific-Merit-For-Vaccinating-Infants.shtml

I'd disagree sciencebased. True immunity doesn't last long under a year but it's not to say it has no effect

I don't think they book your appointments for you- you do it yourself. With the health visitor is there a drop in clinic near you? That's how we saw ours.

Really ScienceBased? Stopping post shit.

Really Sciencebased? With a username like that you would think you'd link something science based wouldn't you? If what you linked was true you'd be able to link to something like the bmi, not some crazy website.

The peer review process – long considered the gold standard of quality scientific research – is a “sacred cow” that should be slaughtered, the former editor of one of the country’s leading medical journals has said.

Richard Smith, who edited the British Medical Journal for more than a decade, said there was no evidence that peer review was a good method of detecting errors and claimed that “most of what is published in journals is just plain wrong or nonsense”.

Link for above: www.independent.co.uk/news/science/scientific-peer-reviews-are-a-sacred-cow-ready-to-be-slaughtered-says-former-editor-of-bmj-10196077.html

The editor of the second of the country’s two leading medical journals, Dr Richard Horton of The Lancet, wrote in an editorial earlier this month that “much of the scientific literature, perhaps half, may simply be untrue”, blaming, among other things, studies with small sample sizes, researchers’ conflicts of interest and “an obsession” among scientists for pursuing fashionable trends of dubious importance”.

“The apparent endemicity of bad research behaviour is alarming,” he wrote. “In their quest for telling a compelling story, scientists too often sculpt their data to fit their preferred theory of the world.”

Link as before.

Dr. Marcia Angell, a physician and longtime Editor in Chief of the New England Medical Journal (NEMJ), which is considered to another one of the most prestigious peer-reviewed medical journals in the world, makes her view of the subject quite plain:

“It is simply no longer possible to believe much of the clinical research that is published, or to rely on the judgment of trusted physicians or authoritative medical guidelines. I take no pleasure in this conclusion, which I reached slowly and reluctantly over my two decades as an editor of the New England Journal of Medicine”

By that logic we shouldn't believe any of the links you've posted "ScienceBased"myarse.

We have meta analysis for a reason...