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refused baby jabs are on record as given

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hazelj · 30/06/2014 23:58

Firstly, this is not intended to be a discussion about MMR, but about permission or record keeping, and how to know which.

14 years ago, I was very clear that my son would not have MMR, and I made this clear to my Drs surgery. They tried to get me to sign a standard form agreeing to them giving my son any treatment they wanted to, without reference to me, and I refused. The receptionist told me it didn't mean what it said and they would always ask first. I still refused. She was very persistent, forceful and angry.
The next time I visited for his jabs, I waited for 40mins, then went into the big room and sat in the middle of it with his leg out waiting for another 10+ minutes getting stressed, then the nurse bustled in and thrust the form at me and said no jabs could be given until I signed, which I did. The jabs happened, and she told me what they were (not MMR).

I was very upset at this tactic and the next day rang and arranged to see the practice manager, explained that I had been bullied into signing, and had my signature crossed out and tippexed out in front of me.

We have since moved and I have just taken my 14yo son for his Dip/Tet/Polio & Men C booster, in accordance with the reminder appointment sent to me.

The nurse was nice and we discussed thinking again about whether he might now have the MMR, during which time she let slip that his record showed he had the jab when he was 1.

So I am again angry and confused. Did they lie to me and give it against my instruction, telling me it was something else, or did they lie on the record, perhaps to get bonus funding?

Is there a way I can find out, perhaps a blood test?
Is there someone I should complain to, and would they care?

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Mumyum1 · 01/07/2014 08:17

Wow. I don't agree with abstaining from vaccinations BUT I don't know your situation and as you say, this is not about that. I would be PISSED OFF AS HELL!!!!!!! If I found out what you did and can totally understand your reaction. What a violation. There is a blood test for MMR immunity.If negative it does not mean he didn't get the jab, it means he is not immune now. As the record states that he received one MMR jab, his would have covered him for a while, the second jab would extend that duration to lifelong. Occasionally for some people a booster is not necessary it mostly it is. However, if it is positive, for all three components, then he has def had the jab as the coincidence of being passively immunised against all three is a bit fantastical. I'm so glad you are so angry, channel it!!!! Good luck!

Mumyum1 · 01/07/2014 08:18

'If I found out what you did' = if I found out what they did

Mumyum1 · 01/07/2014 08:23

I'm not sure who you should complain to but I would take it as high as possible. This is of course regardless of the blood test. Also another point is that MMR is cultivated in egg. If your son had been allergic could have had dire consequences (when you complain state this as well)

FlipFlopWaddle · 01/07/2014 08:24

Has he got a red book? In there it'll show exactly what vaccinations he's had and give dates and batch numbers.
The form you signed is probably the form that consents to you being invited for vaccinations, at each injection they should have also asked you to sign and consent again.
Tippexing out your signature also sounds odd. I think you need to approach PALS and ask for further assistance in investigating exactly what's happened.

(Incidentally, the mmr booster doesn't actually 'boost' immunity, it's more of a 'catch up' to give the 10% who didn't develop immunity from the 1st injection)

hazelj · 01/07/2014 12:48

Thank you both for answering.
He did have a red book, though I have no idea where it is now, but I know for a fact no MMR jab was every recorded in it, and I was careful to know everything that was given to him and ensured I was told before allowing it to be given.

The form wasn't just to be called for jabs, I got one of those some years later by post, after we moved. It was very specifically a blanket permission for anything the GPs at that surgery decided was necessary. In fact the next time I took him for jabs the receptionist tersely told me that I would now have to sign a form every time I visited with him, and I gladly did so whilst being told off by the nurse for the trouble I was putting everyone to.

Thanks for the blood test suggestion mumyum1, I have rung around and found that it is £300 :(
Plus £40 for the nurse to come to the house, or a trip to London.

Any other suggestions would be welcome. I am going to have to think about this some more.

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FlipFlopWaddle · 01/07/2014 14:02

Most health authorities should also keep a record of children's vaccinations but I don't know how you access that as a parent. You could ask to see a GP or the practice manager who may be able to? PALS would be my next port of call to ask for help though, they are there to act as a liaison and advocate.

Mumyum1 · 01/07/2014 17:01

Wow that is expensive. Won't your current GP do it?

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