sugar and protein in urine

[allag]

DD woke up in the night crying of tummy pain and was sick once. She also developed a fever. Because she has been complaining reasonably regularly of tummy aches in the last few months (normally goes immediately and she eats, etc, as normal) and also had a fever for five days about three weeks ago, I took her to the GP this morning. They did a urine sample and found some sugar (which she said could be the result of contamination) and protein, so the sample has been sent off to the lab and we are being referred for bloodtests. According to GP the sugar can mean diabetes. DD is five, and from researching diabetes symptoms, has none of the other signs whatsoever. But I am of course going spare with worry now and we can't get the blood tests until Tuesday and wont get results until the end of next week. Same for the urine lab results. Just wondered if anyone had any idea of experience of sugar in urine that had another explanation. She also has no other symptoms of a urine infection, so not sure what the protein might mean either. Thank you for ANY thoughts or information.

You could always buy a blood glucose meter from Boots & do a finger prick test for blood glucose levels. That would give you some more information. If high levels then get back to doctors asap.
Frustrating the Gp didnt just do a finger prick test especially when GP mentioned diabetes.

thank you. i might do that. It is very frustrating that she gave me no information just muttered something about diabetes and now there is a week long wait at best. very very worried. :(

As KP said, get a blood glucose meter and test. Anything over 11.0, get to A&E.

When ds2 was diagnosed with diabetes (via a urine stick in the GP surgery) I asked if there was anything else it might be. She said the alternatives were very rare. Doesn't mean they don't happen of course. Then she sent us straight to hospital where they did a fingerprick blood test and said it was def diabetes.

Normally you get sugar in the urine when the blood levels are over 10.0 (which is diabetes). BUT if there is something wrong with the kidneys, the level at which sugar spills into the urine is lower - i.e could be normal blood sugar. The other thing you get with kidney disorders is protein in the urine.

You can have swelling in the kidneys caused by all sorts of things (things which get better!). Or it might be nephrotic syndrome. Which is not great but not urgent unless she stops weeing altogether.

Disclaimer; I'm not a doctor, I just have children with these conditions! I would recommend that you phone the surgery as soon as they are open, say you're worried and would like more information. The doctor should be able to phone you.

But go get that glucose meter asap. There are too many tragic misdiagnosis cases with diabetic children.

Depending on how much protein there was, it's quite normal to spill a small amount when a bit ill. Don't know about the sugar sorry. Good advice though, to phone and ask to speak to GP again. A week can seem a very long time
She doesn't look puffy round the eyes in the morning, does she?

Depending on how much protein there was, it's quite normal to spill a small amount when a bit ill. Don't know about the sugar sorry. Good advice though, to phone and ask to speak to GP again. A week can seem a very long time
She doesn't look puffy round the eyes in the morning, does she?

If you do a blood prick test, make sure it is done in the morning before she has breakfast. If you do it after eating you can get a high reading, which can be normal.
If your dd is just starting with diabetes she might not have any other symptoms.
Above don't panic, diabetes is not a life threatening condition, not will it curtail her activities. I am diabetic. It just requires some learning in both your parts.
I hope you get an answer one way or the other.

thank you all very much. Went to Boots and the pharmacist recommended Diastix - a home urine test testing for glucose. We have done one so far and negative. Obviously back to GP tomorrow and will go ahead with blood tests but slightly more hopeful that it's false alarm.

sorry mercibucket, meant to say i dont THINK she has puffy eyes in the morning although those have always been a concern since she had glandular fever about a year and a half ago and got swollen eyelids when she was first ill with it (a classic symptom). Since then I have been looking out and actually I think i may have noticed it a couple of times when after she had a sleepless night due to illness. But generally, no. Would that be a symptom of a kidney problem?

Good!

At your dd's age, type 1 diabetes tends to progress very fast (days not weeks). So a negative test stick and no symptoms today probably means not diabetes.

Good luck with the blood tests, here's hoping for a nice low-level uti that's got better by itself!

Yes, puffy eyes when waking up can be something to mention to gp if you get it as well as protein in wee. They do look puffy when they've not had enough sleep as well though, so that sounds normal. Sounds like it's probably a false alarm

Dd has had stuff in urine that shouldn't be there several times and always come back fine from lab.