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Pls help any GPs with my 5 yr old - I don't know where to go from here

27 replies

worrytrotter · 11/03/2011 00:22

My 5 yr old has been ill for 6 weeks now.

She started with a temperature and cough and generally off food. I took her to the Drs after about 10 days. Dr said - her ears are slightly inflamed but I think it's a virus - nothing to be done - just give Calpol. She has two days off school.

She's never been a good eater or drinker anyway - but I've been trying to keep something in her. So she's been eating yoghurt, bread, fruit and not much more.

3 weeks later - she seems to be getting slightly better - still not eating and drinking well and having at least an hour every the night just coughing, trying to get her breath.

Then she gets worse again, raging temperatures, soaking wet all night, despite maximum doses of Calpol. Coughing and coughing - sometimes two hours a night, trying to get her breath.

I take her back to the Drs. A young (seems a bit inexperienced) Dr says - it's a virus it's nothing to worry about - there's nothing we can do - give her Calpol.

So we come home. She has another three days off sick - she has raging temperatures - and now she's getting very isolated. I don't want to go back to school, nobody likes me, i have nobody to play with etc.

She is still coughing for about 2 hours per night. Her ribs hurt, her throat hurts. Her stomach hurts. Sometimes she vomits - seems to be mucus.

The temperatues seem to abate a bit. I send her back to school. The office tells me I shouldn't keep her off - I'm over reacting. The classroom staff seem to be saying - in a bit of a passive aggressive way - she's clearly ill and why is she here.

At the moment she is crying when she goes to school, crying when she comes home. She complains of throat pain, rib pain and stomach pain. But I'm told by Drs it's a virus and there's nothing they can do. She has at least an hour in the night coughing, desperately trying to get her breath. She's not eating well. She's tearful.

Please can somebody tell me what I should be doing?

Any advice much appreciated.

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blinks · 11/03/2011 00:29

i'd be concerned about poss pneumonia and the best way to get quick response/chest xray is to present at A&E due to breathing concerns.

worrytrotter · 11/03/2011 00:31

Both visits to GP say the chest is clear. This is the problem for me. They won't give antibiotics because they say the chest is clear. Meanwhile, she is suffering horribly.

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blinks · 11/03/2011 00:31

i'm not a GP. i work at NHS4 as call handler/advisor.

blinks · 11/03/2011 00:33

listening to lungs doesn't always safely rule out poss infection.

from personal experience, my husband was told he was imagining the symptoms as they couldn't hear anything... he had double pneumonia and only found out after insisting getting an xray.

worrytrotter · 11/03/2011 00:35

Thanks for replying. It seems to come in stages. She'll go to bed exhausted. Then wake up at 2am and cough and cough for an hour or two. We use Albus oil, vicks etc. But apart from Calpol there's not really anything more we can give. I just hate to see her suffering night after night.

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Goodynuff · 11/03/2011 00:36

could you take her to the hospital while she is having the trouble breathing, then the drs will see it for themselves

worrytrotter · 11/03/2011 00:39

Thank you (re the listening to lungs comment) - I'll take her back to the Dr - this just doesn't seem to be right. Sometimes I can hear fluid moving in her back. I said this to the Dr who said something about it being like a guitar and it resonating and it was nothing to worry about.

I feel like I'm being a nuisance to the Dr.

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blinks · 11/03/2011 00:39

well you have a choice.... take her for reassessment (i'd recommend tonight if she's struggling with breathing) or ride it out.

if there is an infection it can potentially cause lasting damage/scarring PLUS it is very taxing for a child to deal with bad breathing, especially over a long period of time. it will be lowering her immunity.

i think it's a no brainer.

worrytrotter · 11/03/2011 00:42

She's not struggling for breath at the moment. It's like coughing fits - where she just coughs and coughs for sometimes an hour. And sort of gasps in between. So not like asthma or anything. Just relentless. She doesn't go blue or anything. It just really hurts her ribs and makes her distressed. Her sleep is very disturbed.

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worrytrotter · 11/03/2011 00:50

Thanks Blinks and Goody for your help though - I think I now know to take her to Drs in the morning.

I was feeling that I was being PFB but I don't think I am now.

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blinks · 11/03/2011 00:52

i think she has enough potential pneumonia symptoms to warrant being seen tonight.

sweating, fevers, no appetite, rib pain, cough, noisy breathing (wet/crackling), abdo pain, vomiting, tiredness.

you're worried enough to be on MN at this hour asking for advice, so why not just take her to be seen?

blinks · 11/03/2011 00:52

the GP can't xray her lungs.

worrytrotter · 11/03/2011 00:59

Thank you Blinks. The GPs have made me feel that I'm making a fuss about nothing. The last one I saw was particularly arrogant about it being a virus and they don't give out antibiotics for viruses.

She is sleeping now but if she has the same problems tonight I will take your advice and take her to A&E.

I'm very pleased you are up tonight.

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Goodynuff · 11/03/2011 04:04

It is always hard when someone makes you doubt yourself. You are the only advocate your child has, never appologize for doing your best for her Smile

Ilovethedoctor · 11/03/2011 04:47

Doctors are trained to respond to 'the anxious mother' when the child seems normal.

They know you wouldn't be there if there was nothing wrong or keep coming back.

Don't feel bad going to the A and E. Staff there would prefer you did than stay home for fear of wasting their time.

barmbrack · 11/03/2011 04:47

Hi worry,

I took 13 month DS to GP for similar condition to your DD, although it had only lasted a few days, not weeks. I was sent away with advice to give calpol, just a cold.

Three days later he was admitted to hospital with pneumonia, IV antibiotics and oxygen needed. I had spent 3 days with him at home crying, moaning, coughing thinking I couldn't take him back to the GP as I would be seen as PFB mum.

Do her lungs sound 'crackly' to you? When she breathes do they 'catch'? This seems to be a really important symptom (I have twins and when, a week later, DT1 started to cough and had crackly lungs, they put him on ab's straight away).

I would be more pushy next time.

Hope your DD is fine soon.

Ilovethedoctor · 11/03/2011 04:48

By that I meant that Dr's will look harder for a reason the child is ill, not that they pander to the mother.

worrytrotter · 11/03/2011 09:08

Thanks everyone. She did seem slightly better last night but I'm going to get her checked over with a different GP today.

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DeWe · 11/03/2011 11:07

I am certain that if I took a child to see my gp and said they'd been ill for 6 weeks with those symptoms then he'd be refering them in and doing tests (blood/x-ray etc.) Gp should be listening to you. That's not normal to have it that long.
Hope the different GP listens.

blinks · 11/03/2011 14:30

let us know how it goes today.

lisad123isasnuttyasaboxoffrogs · 12/03/2011 23:47

how did it go?

Etalb · 13/03/2011 00:31

Hi our friends boy age four experienced just the same as your DD - he was diagnosed with Pnumonia after mum got so worried and took him to a and E - sry bout spelling!

Knackeredmother · 20/03/2011 13:17

Bump, any news?

DaisySteiner · 20/03/2011 14:18

Whooping cough?

ClaraRenee · 20/03/2011 18:47

Agree with Daisy, whooping cough. DD2 had this when she was about 10months. She had extremely bad coughing fits, particularly at night, she went red in the face and one night I heard the whoop. Shes been vaccinated too.