GP/ ENT specialist and dentist Help needed!

[mamaloco]

OK I am upset so might not make a lot of sense, I will try anyway.

I had an horrible time at the dentist with DD1 (5.5).

First, her top and bottom teeth come straight on top of each other when she bites. The top ones should overlap. (it is not genetic)
We were previouly told to wait for her adult teeth to come through.
The dentist recons that she can help before by giving her night braces (a bit like rugbymen teeth protector).

But then she went on saying that she can't have them because she breathes through the mouth (she has a blocked nose these days).
We were negligeant parents not to have had her adenoids removed (it was on the cards but the peadiatrician didn't think it was needed anymore), that she will be deformed, the nose area will not grow but the rest of her face will. So she will look very ugly. Considering on top of that, that if her bottom teeth are not 'held' by the top ones the mandibule will grow bigger and her bottom teeth will stick out.
Then her brain won't be oxigenated and she will be very bad at school and won't be able to concentrate and have ADD.

She doesn't have cold as often as she used to (may be 2 or 3/year), she snores a little at night but not all the time. TBH, I don't think she breath trough the mouth all the time either. (but apparently I am a bad mum becuase I don't really know ).

Is it really necessary to remove adenoids if there is no ear infection or colds every 2 weeks. Or is the dentist just a scaremonger?

Yes I will go to see a specialist about it, but want some reassurance/advice.

Sorry it is long. TIA

blimey your dentist sounds a bit of a loon
I would get second opinion if I were you

What a horrible dentist - regardless of whats true or not (which I would certainly get a second opinion about!) her bedside manner leaves an awful lot to be desired. Poor you, I would try not to take any of it on board without talking to a) second dentist and b) ENT.

All I can say about adenoids is that dd2 had hers out, along with tonsils, because she had severe sleep apnoea (kept waking up gasping, all night long) and could hardly eat solids anymore. If your dd isn't exhausted during the day, doesn't wake up at night, and only snores a little I doubt her adenoids are big enough to cause that much of a problem with her schooling! And I honestly thought braces were not appropriate with baby teeth...don't think I've ever seen any??

I'd inject your dentist with the numbing stuff in the mouth so he couldn't talk

and stick some in his arse for good measure

Why do people insist on talking about DC's as if they are just names - thay are our children, we love and protect them and need gentle advice not a bollocking.

Sorry OP I'm for you (if you hadn't noticed!)

And yes I'd be seeking a second opinion and not from a dentist in that practice.

I've learned a lot about this over the last couple of years. I'm not a Dr though.

Persistent, long-term mouth-breathing can result in physical deformity and slowed mental development but that's at the far end of the spectrum. Most children with tonsil/adenoid problems wouldn't be that far along the spectrum so don't panic.

If your DD is mouth-breathing a lot, I would certainly go back to your GP and ask for an ENT referral. If you have a GP who is likely to fob you off, write down the reasons why you want a referral and video your DD during sleep. I was fobbed off 3x by my GP but when I got the referral the Consultant was amazed DS hadn't been referred earlier and said his whole ear-nose-throat health was in a dreadful mess. If the Consultant says you have nothing to worry about, you can be reassured that s/he is very likely right.

It's also worth bearing in mind that the vast majority of children will grow out of tonsil/adenoid problems by the time they're 7ish.

Go get some reassurance, but please don't worry. And change your dentist...

Thanks all!
I will go to an ENT as soon as DD's cold is over and I find a good recommended one (I don't need the referal I am not in the UK at the moment).

I am too at myself for getting so upset (she actually had me in tears) and she said all that in front of DD, who was oblivious because so busy trying all the dentist equipment but you never know she is very good at heavedropping. Hence the ADD comment

Awful bebside manners.

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Ds1 has just been referred to an orthodondist for this exact problem he is 5.9 and the referal letter says the wait is 1 year to 18 months.
He see's a pead for other health problems so I will mention to him the mouth breathing.

I didn't notice there was a problem until the dentist mentioned it.

Sorry to hear that alibobins that is a long wait!