sudden enuresis and nausea

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My son has always been prone to bedwetting, but for a year a single lift at 11pm at night solved the problem. Suddenly this summer he's been wetting the bed once or twice a night. He's also complaining of nausea every evening, but is reasonably fine in the day time though a bit glummer and more tired than normal.

We tried desmomelt but after two doses he felt really ill, was sick and saw things, so we stopped it (was only ever going to be a temporary measure for sleepovers anyway.)

But I'm concerned the two are linked - nausea and bedwetting sounds like an anxiety issue but he's been on holiday all summer, had friends round to play and stay over, learned to swim, been on outings, had good fun. Life's no more stressed than usual at home and I just can't think what it could be (I've asked him if anything's worrying him and he doesn't know.)

He's been tested for infections and diabetes.

If anyone else has experience of nausea and bedwetting going together suddenly after a long time being dry at night, I'd be really glad of your opinions.

Has he been tested for infection since these new symptoms started?

Hi

Thanks for replying. He has. Was tested four weeks ago and then again last week - just urine samples at GPs.

How old is he? Is there anything that might provoke anxiety, eg starting.g school?

He's 8, so pretty settled at school. His best classroom friend left last term, but still lives nearby so sees him occasionally and he has lots of other very nice friends in the class who he's seen a lot of over the holidays.

I have wondered if it was related to school but why the anxiety at the start of the holidays? He was pretty fed up by the end of term over various things and was very happy the holidays started. He's had a great summer and seems happy enough when he's not saying he's unwell.

hi RC, just a thought, does your ds suffer from constipation?

Hi Nightcat,

No he doesn't. I'm getting increasingly worried about him though. He starts each day fairly well but he's shattered by 2-3pm, has lost his appetite (was a big eater) is constantly feeling sick, has aches and pains everywhere, has become really clingy and weepy, is sleeping very badly and climbing into our bed at night trembling violently and having night sweats.

This has been going on, on and off, since before the summer holidays. I was so busy in the run up, finishing work deadlines and with distant rellies staying that I didn't give it much attention, but it's been really noticeable over the holidays.

I'm at a loss. This is not how he usually is, and doctors seem unconcerned, as they've tested for infections and the results have come back clear.

If anyone recognises these symptoms, please let me know,

Thanks.

Has he had any jabs recently? (going by age, probably not though)

Is he (was he) on any meds (apart from desmomelts) recently or food poisoning, or travel jabs?

Drs often say: oh it's a virus. Have you tried any allergy/testing?

Is nausea just in the evening, ie before bed or when flat in bed? Could it be food from earlier in the day still bothering him?

Wheat was causing prolonged reflux in my ds and you know that feeling when you get close to throwing up, you feel sweaty and faint. Then we discovered that it was suppressing stomach enzymes so he wasn't able to digest food well and not absorbing nutrients, like you get in celaic but more obscure as he didn't even have severe gut symptoms. But he suffered from leg pains to the point that he couldn't walk beyond about 60 or so m without complaining.

Keep food diary maybe?

umm, worms can cause these symptoms.....might it be worth treating just in case?

Thanks for your replies.

Nightcat - no recent jabs or other meds. No food poisoning that I know of, but a food intolerance is a possibility. We're not a very allergic family but he does suffer from an unusual form of hayfever which affects his optic nerves. Think I'll get him tested. Did you find out via NHS routes or alternative/private practise? Who did you see to get the diagnosis. (Hope you don't mind my asking - just don't want to waste any more time. Even my mum noticed he's been out of sorts and she isn't one to fuss.)

KatyMac, that's interesting. Worms were rife in his brother's class before term broke up so I dosed them up twice just in case. Would have thought that would do the trick, but I guess another dose won't hurt.

I researched a lot myself, went for some private nutrition advice (plus seminars/lectures etc) and I have read up a lot as well, but most tests were done on NHS.

My ds also had a hair test that picked up a few deficiencies, but it looks like your ds is more acute at this moment to look at hair testing.
A lot can be worked out from symptoms too, in the end I have settled for nutritional approach, no drugs in sight, just an odd vitamin.
You could try asking dr for some blood tests, eg liver enzymes, urine etc and look at each line yourself as well, that's what I do.
Eg, when tested, was his ESR was shown? If high that would imply some inflammation.

He's just come back from an afternoon out with his dad, and his tummy and back are covered in tiny raised pimples, like the beginning of a rash. But he seems brighter in himself. I'm wondering about German measles now- but it would have been a long incubation if it is that. He did have swollen glands earlier in the summer but they went down again. Then again, all those symptoms could be allergy-related.

Think we will have to go for blood tests.

Thanks for continuing to show an interest, Nightcat. It's so unsettling when they are out of sorts but it's not clear what's wrong or how to put it right.

Bumping this thread in case others have similar symptoms. Just found out from doc that he has giardia. I feel so bad about it, especially as he's just been treated for worms.

Their hygiene is really good. They wash hands with anti bac after using the loo, before every meal, after cuddling pets. I'm strict about it, but they're also very reliable about it. And I spray down all surfaces before cooking/laying table. At least he doesn't have bad symptoms - no diarrhea or vomiting. I just can't think where he got it from. And worms. Ugh. Want to spray my whole house with bleach. Feels like I've spent all summer boiling towels and dettol-ing every inch of my home and family, and still we have all this.

Where does it come from? Internet sites just say bad water or poor hygiene but I know my kids' hygiene is better than most. Sorry for long post but I just don't understand how or where he got it.

Oh gosh, at least you have an answer!
Does you ds bite nails or something? Reminded me of my cousin always telling her children not to bite nails or they would get worms (she is a pharmacist :))

Thanks, Nightcat. At least we know now. It's easily treatable and at least he doesn't have the really bad symptoms and sickness that go with it.

He does bite his nails. Your cousin must be onto something :) That's the only poor hygiene habit he has. After the worms we did have a conversation about it, but this time, I'm really going to have to get him to stop. He's so good about hygiene apart from that - bit OCD about handwashing and having a bath at night, however tired he is. It seems unfair that he's the one to get it, when most of his friends are rolling in muck and have to be bribed into the bath once a week.