Meet the Other Phone. Child-safe in minutes.

Meet the Other Phone.
Child-safe in minutes.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

Children's books

Join in for children's book recommendations.

Is harry potter good book for kids?

69 replies

JuanTroyer · 16/03/2022 06:10

Hi, I'm just wondering if Harry Potter is a good start to be read by kids? Or not. Thank you.

OP posts:
Bollix · 17/03/2022 19:53

@SundayTeatime

😊

LouisRenault · 17/03/2022 19:59

I don't understand why being slow should be a criticism. The fast pace of life these days is bringing a lot of people to their knees. Reading a book should be an escape, and an opportunity to slow down and relax.

Well said, musicalfrog.

We're reading the Famous Five and some chapters are devoted to simple walks and what they had for tea. It's sublime! The detail that a lot of stories miss out is why I love these books so much!

Have you tried Arthur Ransome? I was 9 or 10 I think when I first read them. As a suburban child, I learned a huge amount about different parts of the country, and the countryside, and different lifestyles and activities, from reading Ransome and other authors.

An added advantage of Ransome is that his Lakeland and Norfolk settings are real places that can be looked up or even visited.

LouisRenault · 17/03/2022 20:09

And also:

Enid Blyton books are not good

I would disagree - I recently re-read the Faraway Tree and the Wishing Chair books, probably for the first time since I was the right age for them. I didn't appreciate, when I was six, just how original and imaginative they were. Some of the ideas in those books are as good as anything JKR came up with - though with less complex themes and no deaths, as they're aimed at younger children.

Bollix · 17/03/2022 20:49

Enid Blyton books were fun for me (a middle class child of the 60s/70s who identified with the characters) but some books have not aged well for obvious reasons 😬

Bollix · 17/03/2022 20:51

I'm going to add 😱 to that when I remember some of the story lines

SundayTeatime · 17/03/2022 20:54

I loved Enid Blyton as a child. I still re-read some now as comfort reads.

Bollix · 17/03/2022 21:03

I like Agatha Christie for the same reason - I think it's the nostalgia factor 🤔 plus I have had a fascination for the 1920/30s since my teens - wish I'd started my ceramic and jewellery collection then 😏

ButterflyBitch · 17/03/2022 21:09

My son read them as a 9/10 year old. He’s currently re reading The Goblet and Fire (his fave book of the series) as a 12 year old. He also listens to the audio stories regularly.

PutinIsAWarCriminal · 17/03/2022 21:13

Harry Potter books are a fabulous way of introducing young readers to proper novels. There is no going back to Biff and Chip after Hogwarts!

PolkadotsAndMoonbeams · 17/03/2022 21:14

The films are more dated than the books really...

The boys' hair in Goblet of Fire. Grin

Perhaps it's just because I haven't read many children's books recently to know the new trends, but I wouldn't have said they start particularly slowly.

FourNaanJeremy · 17/03/2022 21:15

I’m reading the first one to my 7 year old now and he loves it, he loves the story and is really engaged with the plot, but he would struggle to read it himself if that makes sense.

Thewindwhispers · 17/03/2022 21:16

Harry Potter is excellent but not suitable for kids under age 7/8 (too scary). Children under age ten will struggle to read it independently, it’s better read to them, than by them.

SundayTeatime · 17/03/2022 21:23

@Thewindwhispers

Harry Potter is excellent but not suitable for kids under age 7/8 (too scary). Children under age ten will struggle to read it independently, it’s better read to them, than by them.
Children under ten will struggle to read it independently?! That’s ridiculous. It has a reading age of around 8.
MargaretThursday · 17/03/2022 21:47

@LouisRenault

And also:

Enid Blyton books are not good

I would disagree - I recently re-read the Faraway Tree and the Wishing Chair books, probably for the first time since I was the right age for them. I didn't appreciate, when I was six, just how original and imaginative they were. Some of the ideas in those books are as good as anything JKR came up with - though with less complex themes and no deaths, as they're aimed at younger children.

I agree. People are very dismissive of Enid Blyton, but try rereading them as an adult and there's far more to them than people think. Yes there are issues with them, but no more than other books.

Famous Five: George is a very modern character for the times. She's mistaken for a boy simply because in those days girls didn't wear boys clothes etc. She's shown as keeping up with the boys-and even better in a lot of ways.
Anne is very brave. She's scared but still does most things. That's braver than the others who generally don't show fear-except sometimes Julian who is scared for the others rather than himself.
Dick is really the filler character in the group.

The Adventure series are far more threatening than I picked up as a child. There's one point where Bill says "don't worry Lucy Ann, they won't hurt children." As a child I excepted that. Rereading it to my children I could see that it was a desperate comment. They'd have killed the children off first to get him to talk. Plus you've got the development of the romance between Bill and Mrs Mannering.

In the Barney series you have Barney finding his father. And the cruel trick played on a desperate boy in Rub a Dub. Writing at its finest there.

And I could go on.

People say she's too middle class. Well actually she has a number of fantastic characters who are definitely working class. Barney, Andy (Adventurous four), Ern (Five Find Outers), Jack (Secret Series) and others. They're not looked down on at all, more admired. In fact it tends to be the upper class princes who come off worst from her writing!
People accuse her of being sexist. I suspect that hurt her because for her time she actually was quite ahead of the pack. And as a "girlie" girl, I appreciated having characters who did like dolls etc without being shown as being wrong.
Racist, yes, her attitudes are wrong by today's standards. I tended to use it as a learning curve for my children to show how times had changed, and how ingrained racism was back then. I expect there will be books today that are considered forward thinking that will be considered to be dreadfully offensive after 20 years, let alone 80 years later.

Her characterisation is excellent. Although she has similar characters in her main books, they are markedly different. You wouldn't confuse Anne with Bets or Lucy Ann, even though on the face of it they are the similar "little girl" character. Compare that to Noel Streatfield (whose books I also love) where you could interchange several of the characters in books and not notice.
She has an understanding of characters in a very complex way. They're often not just happy children having fun, they have backgrounds that cause their actions.

She does approach issues in her books. There is child abuse, hints of domestic abuse, parent illness, financial difficulties, loss of a pet, jealousy of siblings and many other things very sensitively with understanding about children.

And her imagination is amazing. The Faraway Tree and Wishing Chair books both have the most amazing lands that feel both dreamlike and real. The Land of Goodies with flowers where the middle are jellies for example.

She wrote over 700 books, many of which are still available today. That's pretty impressive. Can you think of any other author who wrote as many stories? How many authors from the 40s and 50s are still published today by mainstream publishers?

And another accusation thrown against her is the lack of language. I learnt all sorts of words from her: Forger, verbose, ornithologist, asinine, purloined, mutinous, ingots...
And I learnt about things like being insured (when a house is burnt down), and how to tell stalagmite and stalactite apart ("Stalactites must hold tight to the roof and stalagmites might join them one day if they grow tall enough) as well as lots about nature.

SundayTeatime · 17/03/2022 21:50

I learnt loads of my nature knowledge from the Children of Cherry Tree Farm.

Bollix · 17/03/2022 21:52

Wowza 😲 you should go on Mastermind with EB as your specialist subject @MargaretThursday 😆

Tuppity · 17/03/2022 21:57

Agree with a lot of others. I am so grateful to jk Rowling for fostering a love of reading to my child. The books are amazing

MargaretThursday · 17/03/2022 22:01

@Bollix

Wowza 😲 you should go on Mastermind with EB as your specialist subject *@MargaretThursday* 😆
@Bollix It was a bit longer than I intended!

She wrote far too many books for me to know enough.
I just have a flypaper memory for useless facts especially about books. Juts don't ask me to remember anything useful in real life. Grin

I just find it odd how she's often dismissed out of hand with the same accusations which aren't necessary true or you could give the same accusations on many other authors.
Children still love the books today so she must have done something right.

Bollix · 17/03/2022 22:03

@MargaretThursday

Vert true 👍

Bollix · 17/03/2022 22:04

Very even 😅

Ionlydomassiveones · 17/03/2022 22:06

This reply has been withdrawn

This has been withdrawn at the poster's request.

Snoopsnoggysnog · 17/03/2022 22:08

@SundayTeatime

I loved Enid Blyton as a child. I still re-read some now as comfort reads.
I do this too, especially when life is a bit stressful, someone on here said that they were a kind of therapy for her and it’s the same for me. Takes me back to a happy place.

They’re really quite poorly written and so moralistic but I still love them (and I have a literature degree)

user1471443411 · 17/03/2022 22:11

In my experience they're really good to get children properly into reading. DD1 could already read, but I think she started reading Harry Potter when she was about 7, first her dad read to her as bedtime stories, and she liked the stories so much that she continued reading them herself in the daytime, she never had her nose out of a book all the rest of the way through primary school. DD2 wasn't as much of a reader, but Harry Potter books were the first books that she was really interested in reading by herself and got her into reading, a little bit older, maybe 8 or 9. Neither of them like the books now but it is like a gateway drug to reading (for some children).

Snoopsnoggysnog · 17/03/2022 22:12

@MargaretThursday I agree with you apart from your point about characterisation. Some of her main characters are total fillers and never get a proper plot line and we never learn anythijf interesting about them. I give you - Larry and Daisy?! That series is my absolute favourite and I have read them many times but we learn so much more about Fatty and the others that we do about L&D.

Bollix · 17/03/2022 22:14

@Ionlydomassiveones

which probably partly compensated for the poor 70s state education at school.

Really? I think that my 70s state education was exceptional 🤨