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Help me find this 80s/ 90s book - teenage girl teaching English to Asian woman

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EllieQ · 19/08/2021 17:14

I’m trying to find a book I remember reading as a teenager, where a girl volunteers to teach English to an older Asian (Indian/ Pakistani) woman.

  • I read it between 1988 and 1995.
  • Think it’s set in London in the 80s.
  • The main character (possibly called Julie) volunteers to English to immigrants, and is assigned an older Asian woman.
  • She may have been told she had to do the volunteering role (a school thing?)
  • Her family is racist, and she might not have told them what she’s doing has they wouldn’t approve.
  • Her brother gets involved in a skinhead/ National Front type group during the book.
  • She becomes less racist and more critical of her family’s racist attitudes during the book.
  • She meets and starts to fall for the woman’s grandson, but this isn’t the main focus of the story.
  • The book ends with her and the grandson being attacked by her brother’s gang, and I remember a description of snow at the end.

One scene I clearly remember is that she has been using coloured counters to teach numbers, then at the next visit, the woman’s young grand-daughter explains that her grandmother now thinks that ‘one’ means red, ‘two’ means blue, and the girl has to ask the grand-daughter to explain what they actually mean.

If anyone can help, I’d be really grateful!

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EllieQ · 19/08/2021 20:56

Bump for the evening crowd!

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forfucksakenett · 19/08/2021 20:58

No clue but hopeful bump for you!

EllieQ · 19/08/2021 21:37

Thanks! I’ve just been googling ‘Puffin Plus’ and ‘Lions Teen Tracks’ as I remember them publishing YA fiction in the 80s/ 90s, and haven’t found it, but I have found several other books I remember, which is nice Smile

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EllieQ · 21/08/2021 08:53

Bump for the weekend. Can anyone help?

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pollyhemlock · 21/08/2021 12:03

@EllieQ I’ve been trying but without success. Was this definitely a YA/ teenage book? Or an adult book that you read as a teenager? I’ve had a look at the YA authors writing at the time, but haven’t come up with anything so far.

TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 21/08/2021 12:05

It’s the kind of thing Jacqueline Wilson was writing in the 80s, have you checked her early ones out?

pollyhemlock · 21/08/2021 12:16

@TheCountessofFitzdotterel

It’s the kind of thing Jacqueline Wilson was writing in the 80s, have you checked her early ones out?
Yes, I thought of that, but none of them seems to fit.
EllieQ · 21/08/2021 12:29

@pollyhemlock I’m fairly sure it was YA, but not 100% certain. I did occasionally read books from the adult section of the library.

Is your name a reference to Fire & Hemlock by Diana Wynne Jones?

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EllieQ · 21/08/2021 12:42

@TheCountessofFitzdotterel I’ve had a look as I remember reading some of those early Jacqueline Wilson books, but none seem familiar.

I’ve realised it must have been published after 1986 as there’s a reference to the ‘Aids: Don’t Die of Ignorance’ advertising campaign - the main character gets freaked out when the older woman shows her the leaflet and thinks she might be infected with AIDS, but the manager of the volunteering service tells her the woman was probably asking what it meant.

Why can I remember these scenes in detail, but not the name of the book?

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pollyhemlock · 21/08/2021 13:18

@EllieQ Yes indeed. I’m a huge DWJ fan.

FlufferPupper · 21/08/2021 13:20

Oh I know this story, my dad had it for me at his house. In my memory though it was one of a short story collection, not a standalone book of its own. He's probably still got it because he hoards books so I'll ask him to have a look!

EllieQ · 21/08/2021 14:18

That would be fantastic @FlufferPupper - thank you! Glad someone else remembers the story Smile

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FlufferPupper · 21/08/2021 15:33

I'm sure it ended with her being upset that the grandson no longer wanted to be friends with her? But the story I remember was set in maybe Bradford, or another Northern mill town?

EllieQ · 22/08/2021 12:26

@FlufferPupper

I'm sure it ended with her being upset that the grandson no longer wanted to be friends with her? But the story I remember was set in maybe Bradford, or another Northern mill town?
Yes, I’m fairly sure the relationship didn’t go anywhere. Could have been set in Bradford or a similar place, which would tie in with the racial tensions/ National Front type group.
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Taytotots · 01/11/2021 09:41

I think I remember this too. But vaguely! Was thinking it could be a Joan Linguard one but doesn't seem to be.

pollyhemlock · 01/11/2021 19:02

@EllieQ I think Salt on the Snow by Rukshana Smith might be the book you’re looking for www.worldofbooks.com/en-gb/books/rukshana-smith/salt-on-the-snow/9780370312033?gclid=CjwKCAjwoP6LBhBlEiwAvCcthPFo-73OxViTKIL79xSzR3nqH1-HvYM-Qq0xMoi7yn21940TVh2cNhoCSXMQAvD_BwE

EllieQ · 01/11/2021 21:03

[quote pollyhemlock]@EllieQ I think Salt on the Snow by Rukshana Smith might be the book you’re looking for www.worldofbooks.com/en-gb/books/rukshana-smith/salt-on-the-snow/9780370312033?gclid=CjwKCAjwoP6LBhBlEiwAvCcthPFo-73OxViTKIL79xSzR3nqH1-HvYM-Qq0xMoi7yn21940TVh2cNhoCSXMQAvD_BwE[/quote]
I think that is it @pollyhemlock - thank you so much! I’ve ordered a copy now. How did you find it?

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pollyhemlock · 01/11/2021 21:17

A bit of online research in old children’s book reviews and I struck lucky. I worked in this area for many years so I know the places to look. Gives me something to do in the long winter evenings 😀 !

EllieQ · 11/11/2021 21:16

@pollyhemlock Coming back to stay that is definitely the book, thank you so much!

Rashmi has come from India to Britain to look after her brother’s little girl, not her granddaughter, but otherwise the things I remembered (the main character being called Julie, the AIDS leaflet, the colour/ numbers mix-up, the skinhead brother, the final scene with the snow) are all in there. Strange what sticks in your mind.

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pollyhemlock · 12/11/2021 12:15

Glad it was the right one!

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