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DS8 reading books far too easy - should I bother pushing him?

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AllAboutTheGin · 22/07/2019 14:11

Hi, title says it all really. DS has just finished year 3, only just turned 8, with a 4C for reading. Which I think is pretty good? He can read anything really that is age appropriate, and really does love to read - but he won't read anything at his level. I provide him with so many books that he LOVES me to read to him, we go to the library all the time, sometimes I get him started on a book and he'll take over, but more often than not I find him reading and re reading the same old easy, dare I say rubbishy, books. He read the captain underpants series about 8 times over the last two years and has only recently tired of it. He is now re reading a load of Tom Gates books. He has read and enjoyed most if not all David Walliams, Roald Dahl, the Pamela Butchart series, How to train your dragon, Spiderwick Chronicles, Electrigirl, various 'novels' based on lego and spiderman movies. But when it comes to anything a little more challenging, or really anything without pictures, he gives up after two or three chapters, even if its really his cup of tea. Things I have read to him that he has loved but wouldn't read himself are - Bear Grylls series (the slightly older ones, not the early readers), Enid Blyton Adventure series, Harry Potter (actually he wanted to read enjoy this so much that he did read large chunks to himself), the Matt Haig Christmas books...
His teacher says he works so hard at school he deserves to chill out and read whatever nonsense he wants, but I find it SO frustrating! I have a bookshelf full of books waiting to be read and if I'm going to have to read them all to him its going to take forever while he stays up late in bed re-reading bloody Tom Gates!
Basically should I be bothered or try encouraging him a bit more to read out of his comfort zone? He's currently infuratingly in the middle of Hamish and the worldstoppers and taking his time over every chapter when I know he would devour a David Walliams in a couple of days!

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AllAboutTheGin · 22/07/2019 14:16

I should have added, can anyone reccommend any books to try, preferably with a few illustrations to reassure him! Waiting to be read for eg, I have Percy Jackson, Beetle Boy, Cogheart, more Bear Grylls, some classics, Ronia and the robbers daughter - but I know these will have to wait a while. Also have Lemony Snicket on hold at library as he did get through the first one.

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notatwork · 22/07/2019 14:16

I think that the independently when he wants to is key here.
Taking his time means that he is working through the language in his own time. That's a good thing.
Most of the 'advanced readers' from the DCs peer groups were pushed by their mums and didn't really get the most out of the books they were reading.
Your DS is reading and loving it (albeit slowly at the moment) then your battle is won.

PinkFlowerFairy · 22/07/2019 14:18

Why the rush?

Id stop stockpiling books uou think he ought to read as that will only pressure him or feel overwhelmkmg and unacheivable.

Just continue ti let him choose what he wants and enjoy it!

Grumpbum123 · 22/07/2019 14:19

Let him be

AllAboutTheGin · 22/07/2019 14:24

Thank you. I know there is no rush. I'm not in a rush for him to 'improve' as I think he's a great reader, more of a rush I guess for him to enjoy some great stories. It just seems a shame to be reading tom gates over and over when there are so many great books out there. But you're right, he is having fun and enjoys it so thats the main thing. I guess I just wanted reassurance on that!
I still feel like I could be finding some new books for him so any suggestions more than welcome (as for stockpiling - I just grab random things from charity shop when I see them - 3DC and all love books so I'm sure one of them will read them at some point! I keep them in my room and he doesn't know what I have. I just get a couple out once in a while for him to pick from - so no pressure.)

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PinkFlowerFairy · 22/07/2019 14:27

But you're still looking for him. I'd honestly step back and let him choose at the library for himself. Or let him choose if in a charity shop/supermarket but stop buying them for him. He will fknd what he likes.

Where hes older now and able to read he'll find what he likes.
(I may be bitter neither of mine liked Enid Blyton stories that I did! But I think I was like you are now and had to learn to step back!)

AllAboutTheGin · 22/07/2019 14:27

Also, I should probably point out I don't ever tell him he's reading rubbish. I know I probably sound pushy but I'm not!

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AllAboutTheGin · 22/07/2019 14:30

Ok I'll try to step back. Asking him to choose at the library though is hard - our library is amazing beautiful but a little too exciting and I'm lucky if I get any of mine to actually look at the books in there! I end up having to go on my own if I don't want to leave empty handed (it really is a very exciting library!)

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newmomof1 · 22/07/2019 14:30

Michael Morpurgo has written some great books.

newmomof1 · 22/07/2019 14:32

Oh, try the Robert Muchamore Cherub books. They sound like they'd be right up his street and are aimed at around 10/11 year olds but he sounds pretty advanced

SmellbowSpaceBowl · 22/07/2019 14:35

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NoSquirrels · 22/07/2019 14:41

He’s getting pleasure out if the re-reads - my extremely advanced reading DC1 still enjoys rereading ‘younger’ stuff even now and I hate it when her dad pushes her into trying things she’s just not bothered about just because she ‘could’.

If he likes illustrated stuff, try comics and graphic novels. They are a very visual way of reading that stretches them in different ways.

IggyAce · 22/07/2019 14:42

Please take a step back, some of the books your suggesting are year 5 and above books. The fact he is reading some again and again means he’s improving his comprehension. Comprehension is very important.

NoSquirrels · 22/07/2019 14:51

I do agree as well that he’s reading perfectly at the right ‘level’ for Year 3. Walliams, HTTYD, Tom Gates, Spiderwick - all perfect for his age.

AllAboutTheGin · 22/07/2019 16:20

Ok i’ve been told and thank you! I never know if i’m doing the right thing. We do really enjoy reading together too and don’t want that to stop.
As for Michael Morpuego, sadly they are his idea of boring...
Will look at the others mentioned, thank you. Not heard of those.
As for reading above level, he has friends who claim to be reading E.g. Artemis Fowl alone, I barely got to grips with the first chapter when I looked in the library! I can’t believe a 7/8 year old would understand that. But the books I mentioned I have picked up mainly off the back of threads on here about similar level readers. Will definitely hold off.

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notatwork · 22/07/2019 17:23

He's 8! Of course Morpurgo seems dull. Understanding the words and comprehending the emotion /having the ability to read between the lines are very different things. He's enjoying books for his age. That's great! (Speaking as a parent whose youngest refused to open a book until y2 and has never enjoyed reading Sad

Witchend · 22/07/2019 18:30

I have 3 dc who were good readers, all got 4a s at the end of year 3 and progressed rapidly upwards.

Dd1 read ahead and once she'd moved on to the next level never went back. Her favourite book in year 4 was Watership Down.
Dd2 read a mixture. She's 15yo and I may still find her reading Rainbow fairies, which she first read over 10 years ago. In year 3 she read every level from Rainbow Fairies through to books like Anne of Green Gables series and What Katie did etc.
Ds liked to read factual books to himself. He was not interested in fiction if he had a choice, but when he was looking for a book in his interests he would go through the adult books because the children's ones were boring. However we read together various fiction books of all levels. As long as it interested him he'd keep up.

Now dd1 reads the least. Dd2 still likes to read. If you get no answer from her, she's probably stuck in a book. Ds still likes his evening story, but doesn't often read at other times.

I think actually rereading familiar books with simpler language is great. It teachers them to love reading. That the pleasure of curling up with a familiar book is greater than anything else. I love to curl up with a book I enjoyed when I was 8yo come to that.

What I found with dd2 and ds is reading the first bit to them works/ed quite well. With dd2 she got easily scared, so we'd often have "that's too scary". I'd read the first chapter, and usually by the end of the second page I'd be holding tight so she didn't wrest it off me to go and read herself. With ds, a sign he's really enjoying it, is finding that he's read ahead-or even finished it.

Don't try the Cherub books yet. He may be able to read them, but they're not for 8yos unless you want them to read about drugs, smoking, drinking and sex (for example one of the books includes trafficking of a young girl for sex) . Mine read them around about 10-12yo with supervision (and I did read the books first, and some were definitely left until later!), so I could discuss and answer questions.

If he's interested in that sort of story, the Alex Rider are far more suitable for that age, and the worse you get in those are "Alex swore" Grin

Take him to the library and let him choose some, and perhaps suggest one. Ask him to see what he thinks. If he doesn't like it, then don't force him. If the library's got too many other things, then take time to let him do both.

I've never stopped them reading "younger books" but occasionally I have removed an older one-usually for a specific reason.

AllAboutTheGin · 22/07/2019 22:12

Thank you witchend for your long message. I am definitely going to hold back. Today I found him upstairs alone with the 50 odd project x oxford reading tree books spread out on the floor and he was ploughing his way through them!!! Hilarious, but as you say he is discovering that curing up and reading is awesome.
I briefly looked up a cherub and thought no way! Looks way too inappropriate. I had actually thought even Alex rider was a bit ahead of the game but maybe i’ll have another look. Thanks again.

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EmCamB · 23/07/2019 08:45

We insisted on an hour a day of DS reading a 'classic' book as a way for DS to earn time doing what he wanted (gaming). We offered a choice of two from a school reading list as a stretch read. Bottom line - it worked and we still use this approach. Some books were chores, others were enjoyed. It also helped with English skills.

So, yes, I would follow a similar approach to develop a child's reading age. They can still read for fun as well if they want to.

HeadsDownThumbsUpEveryone · 23/07/2019 08:53

We insisted on an hour a day of DS reading a 'classic' book as a way for DS to earn time doing what he wanted (gaming).

As a reader I cannot imagine anything worse than being forced to read a book because someone older than me deemed it to be a classic.

It sounds like you are doing a great job in encouraging his love of reading OP. However as other have said he's at an age now where its fine to leave him to make the decisions and discover reading books simply for the joy of having a book in his hands. Even the most able of adult readers often like to curl up with a book that might be perceived as too easy.

PinkFlowerFairy · 23/07/2019 10:09

Wow enforced reading is a way to kill a child's love of reading....

NoSquirrels · 23/07/2019 11:33

Some books were chores

Goodness - why? What on earth is the point of making a book a "chore"? Authors write books to be enjoyed.

Did you never HATE something you had to study at school? I did, and only came to appreciate them in later life (or sometimes not at all).

Reading is a pleasure. There is absolutely no benefit at all to 'stretching' a child's reading ability. None. I feel really strongly about it!

dozy12345 · 23/07/2019 11:38

What about horrible science/horrible histories? Work on the comprehension questions too, is he listening words and concepts he doesn’t understand?

I tend to let dd chose, i spent ages trying to get her to read the little princess, princess and the suffragette, nada, but she’s read all of Cressida cowell over and over.

AllAboutTheGin · 23/07/2019 14:00

I would never bribe him to read or make him read something he didn’t want to. I have suggested things he hasn’t loved, but he’s never stuck at anything he doesn’t like and I would never make him. I don’t know how I would even if I wanted to!
I’m definitely taking all this on board and honestly, it’s how I was playing it anyway, I just wondered if I should be pushing him and now I understand that no, I shouldn’t!
He occasionally dips into horrible science but usually just here and there in the car or toilet! Not really his thing unfortunately. As for comprehension, I don’t question him on things he reads himself but if we are alternating chapters eg Harry Potter, I make him fill me in on what i’ve missed, and when I read to him we talk through everything he doesn’t understand and I ask him a couple of questions randomly through each chapter. I don’t want to make it a test and school assure me he is reading and understanding to a 4c level within the classroom.

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jackparlabane · 23/07/2019 14:12

Building up speed and stamina for reading is vital if they are to enjoy longer complex books in future. Even books like Tom Gates have a few bits of demanding vocab in them.
I'd leave it but maybe get some Asterix and Marcia Williams to widen his cultural references.