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Terminal diagnosis support group

152 replies

ScaredOncologyMum · 08/06/2023 10:15

First thanks to @Mumsnet for setting up
the children’s cancer chat. I have posted under other names before and had so few replies. I asked in Young Lives if there was anywhere for prebereaved/anticipatory grief parents to get support, and then thought Mumsnet might help. Am delighted there is now a children’s cancer topic. So here I am. (Under a new name).

we have been told DD is chemo resistant and nothing more can be done. No timescales, and DD is well, at school, no lines, no medication, no knowledge of what is to come. An Immunotherapy trial drug will be made available when her tumour markers start going up
again. So we are effectively waiting for her to die.
I am trying tolet her live a normal life. I get her to take some supplements and am trying to feed the family a v healthy diet as have been sucked down some of the adult ‘eat your way out of it’ cure pages in FB. We haven’t told other people because she doesn’t know and we don't want her to be treated differently.
of course we remain hopeful about the immunotherapy. Some days I convince myself that the diet and supplements are keeping it at bay.
But the ache of sadness never leaves me. It is not right to watch a child go from ‘normal’ to death and I have no idea what to do with it. By which I mean the sadness, the pain, the fear. So much ‘she looks so well!’ from well meaning family and friends. But I know there is residual disease and an official relapse is weeks/months away.
Within our ‘being normal’ we are trying to have fun and enjoy life, and I echo the gentle parenting comment mentioned in the ‘new thread’. I am a different person now entirely and cannot unsee or unhear the things experienced (especially on Lion) and I don’t think anyone can understand.
Am hoping others from the YLvC chat will join here so we can support each other through this nightmare.
sorry for the long opening message 😫

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banabak · 24/04/2024 22:10

@Downtoyou thinking of you and Jake tonight. I'm relieved to hear the care team are responsive and caring and there's support there when you need it. Hope Jake has a settled night and that you get some rest

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 24/04/2024 22:41

💜💜💜

Downtoyou · 26/04/2024 22:19

My darling boy passed away this morning, there are simply no words to describe how I feel

barefootcook · 27/04/2024 00:55

I am so sorry for your loss. 💔

ScaredOncologyMum · 27/04/2024 01:36

Oh @Downtoyou that is so sad. Please have a giant hug. It cuts me to my core when I hear about our children dying. I hope it was peaceful
and pain free. Please keep posting.

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nocoolnamesleft · 27/04/2024 01:52

I am so sorry for your loss, @Downtoyou . Thinking of you.

banabak · 27/04/2024 08:31

@Downtoyou I can only repeat what @ScaredOncologyMum said and hope so very much that Jake wasn't in pain. We're here for you

Fluffywigg · 27/04/2024 09:05

I’m so sorry to hear this. Thinking of you all.

BellaVita · 27/04/2024 15:32

Sending my love to you all @Downtoyou, I am so so sorry xx

@ScaredOncologyMum my boy will be back on chemo soon - tablet form 5 days a month for 6 months. On the 22nd April we had his latest scan results and the tumour has started to grow again - he will be having a second craniotomy on Monday.

He is more upset that our Barcelona plans have to be cancelled as he cannot fly until 6 weeks post op along with our visit to the states to meet Gordon Ramsay and be part of the Hells Kitchen filming - we were going for his birthday in June, cannot get insurance 😫

C152 · 27/04/2024 17:59

Oh @Downtoyou , no, there are no words at all. I am very sorry.

Castlereagh · 27/04/2024 18:42

@Downtoyou I am so sorry sorry, you didn't get enough time with your lovely boy. He sounds like such a brave and kind boy, he would have been a good man to have in this world. My heart goes out to you and your family.

SoManyQuestionsSoMuchSadness · 27/04/2024 21:33

I am so so sorry @Downtoyou Jake deserved so much more, from the few things you said about him he sounded absolutely wonderful

Try to take care of yourself eating, sleeping etc and let us know if we can help in anyway xx

FoodieToo · 27/04/2024 22:47

I’m so, so sorry too . I’ve been following your thread but didn’t feel it was ok to post .
I’ve been thinking about you so much also . Your beautiful boy ❤. Life is horrendously cruel xx.

Downtoyou · 28/04/2024 09:22

Thank you everyone for your kind words. It's really difficult to describe how I am feeling, I expected to feel a huge wave of devastation, but instead I feel quiet and calm. 3 weeks ago we were told that Jake only had a few days left, and it has been difficult watching my strong teenage boy decline. For the last 2 weeks he was using a hospital bed in the living room as he was too weak to climb the stairs and we needed the space for the nurses and doctors. We have been incredibly well supported, I can't thank them enough, they treated Jake as they would there own child.

Jake closed his eyes the day before he died and then never woke up. His dad and I were with him at the end. His breathing was very laboured and difficult to watch, and then he eventually took 2 very deep breaths and everything stopped. It was surreal and thinking back I still can't believe I witnessed that. Around 10 minutes before he passed away, a magpie flew into the patio door window several times. I am not spiritual but it was weird and we both asked ourselves if it meant something. I googled it and apparently a magpie in the window represents an impending death. I just kept thinking, 'one for sorrow.'

I am glad that Jake is at peace now, he was very tired and unwell at the end, he told us he was done. I just wish that this didn't happen to my boy and I miss him so much already, but I know we will all be okay somehow.

ScaredOncologyMum · 28/04/2024 10:17

💛💛💛
I don’t know what to say. But I feel both extremely sad and yet reassured by your words
💛💛💛

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barefootcook · 29/04/2024 05:41

Thank you for sharing your final days with Jake. Your writing is beautiful and will be of comfort to those in a similar situation. Please keep writing if you feel it is the right thing to do. Fly high Jake. 💐

ScaredOncologyMum · 07/05/2024 11:44

Feeling sad today. The latest drug has caused hair to start falling out- quite a lot. She asked me to shave it all off. That’s the decision she made the last 2 times it started to fall. So am ok with it, but had to say that if she shaves it now it probably won’t grow back. She asked why and I said because this drug won’t make you better. So hard to know if she understands or not. She doesn’t want to talk about it but agreed to wait a few days and see how it goes.
Feels like this will force our hand into telling more people what is happening. I hate all of this. Hope everyone else having a better day.
(on rereading I realise the obvious thing to do is call the hospital and see if they can advise. I doubt they can but worth a try. Thing is even if it is just ‘thinning’ when you are only 15 months post chemo there isn’t much hair anyway and she knows that the super thin look is worse than bald).

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Castlereagh · 07/05/2024 20:40

This is so sad @ScaredOncologyMum . The thought of having to do all that again is almost unbearable. My DC is also of the don't want to talk about it variety so I always feel like I'm guessing what they're feeling for them. Yes the combover look is much worse and irritating for them in the end, but you're right shaving it off means more people will have to know to, also stop them asking intrusive offensive questions. I'll never forget when a random adult in the street pointed to my son and said to his friend really loudly 'omg that kids going bald'. I'm so sorry you are facing all this again.

ScaredOncologyMum · 08/05/2024 15:37

@BellaVita hope the recovery from craniotomy has been ok and the chemo not causing too many side effects.

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Misspacorabanne · 08/05/2024 16:06

@ScaredOncologyMum oh op! Im sorry to read that you and your dd are having a horrible time! Life is so unfair at times! I know there are no words to take the pain away, but I’m here for you with a hand hold. X

SoManyQuestionsSoMuchSadness · 08/05/2024 20:35

@ScaredOncologyMum I hate all of this for you too. You are doing a really, really good job and looking after your dd the best that you can. I hope you know that xx

ScaredOncologyMum · 04/06/2024 12:45

Mini update time. The ‘gentle’ palliative chemo, as well as hair loss also caused electrolyte imbalance and she ended up inpatient for blood and phosphate infusions. Was annoyed with local hospital calling at 10pm on a friday night to say to take her in; after I called our lead hospital it was agreed to retest the following morning. Also managed to mess up timings so DD missed a school trip. Had they done what was planned when they said they would she could have gone. Consultant apologised and said would report it but I have heard nothing further.

An enforced break from the chemo due to neutropenia to get ‘better’ and now is back on half dose of what she was on. Due to kidney damage DD was already on a lower dose, so concerned that tumours may start growing again.

But DD is at school, seems happy and we go again, still living a fortnight at a time. Hope you are all doing ok.

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C152 · 07/06/2024 19:59

@ScaredOncologyMum I am so sorry you're both going through all this again. It was a bit of a gut punch to read about the 'gentle' chemo being as shit as normal chemo. I wish they would just be honest so we can prepare ourselves and our children.

Annoyed at your behalf re local hospital. So was there someone with decision making power actually available at your lead hospital on a Friday night? That just doesn't happen - ever - at ours! It's hard enough to get them to answer a question during the week between 9am and 5pm! Anyway, I hope the lead hospital's input made things slightly easier.

I am impressed and pleased for your DD that she is back in school. She sounds incredible. X

ScaredOncologyMum · 08/06/2024 19:28

Hey @C152 good to hear from you. Must admit I was quite forceful
about not taking her in on the Friday night and lead hospital were supportive but also suggested the compromise of a retest in the morning.
Am so scared about the half dose. Got a clinic letter that mentions various kidney issues that I haven’t heard described in the ‘medicalese’ before, so that is another thing to worry about.
Hope things are calm for you.

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fluffyegg · 08/06/2024 19:34

I couldn't not write anything , sending you so much love and strength . I will be thinking of you all xx 😘