Childless men

[KimberleyClark]

Just read this on another thread.

I know a few childless men, all short / low earner / not attractive.

Is it just me or is it horrible?

They're coming for our height now. Is nothing about childfree / childless people sacred?

(FWIW, my childfree by choice husband is a 6'2 head turner. I'm 5'11. We're not poor.).

Your quote only says that the childless men that poster knows are like that, nothing more, so I don’t think it’s necessarily nasty unless there’s more to it? If the poster said short, unattractive men shouldn’t have children, that would be nasty.

Some people wouldn’t choose to have a child if they were low earners, it could be taken as a sensible decision. We didn’t have children until we were earning a good salary each. I’d hope many people go take their earnings into account before they have children.

Just realised this is on the childless mumsnetter board. Sorry, I wouldn’t usually comment here as I have children. I didn’t realise this board appeared in active.

@SleepWalkingIntoSpace

Try a few alternatives:

I know a few childless men, all short / low earner / not attractive.

I know a few Jewish men, all short/low earner/not attractive

I know a few Asian men, all short/low earner/not attractive

Do you think those are okay and jot necessarily nasty?

All the child free men I know have successful careers, enough money for holidays etc, are nice and generally good people. Maybe the poster in that thread is surrounding themselves with people who share similar traits with them.

@Insommmmnia I deliberately said it was not ‘necessarily’ nasty.

The childless men that particular poster knows may genuinely be those things, so they may just be stating a fact about the ones she knows. I don’t think it’s the same as saying childless men in general are those things. That would be stupid and obviously untrue as there are childless men we all know that are not those things. Obvious examples amongst famous men that are certainly rich, some that are also tall and attractive.

Of course the poster could be being a total cunt. 😅

As I said, I wouldn’t have commented if I realised this was on the child free board and genuinely don’t wish to argue. I posted in support of this board being set up when it was suggested and feel you should be able to discuss these things with other child free posters. That’s not me so I’m going to hide the thread.

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My husband is child free and he is tall(ish), the most attractive man in the world (to me) and a high earner 🤷🏼‍♀️
And I’m pretty sure if he did have children he wouldn’t shrink, become hugely unattractive or start earning less money 🤷🏼‍♀️

I on the other hand would most likely because rounder & less attractive if I had children and would most definitely be earning less 🙃

Isnt the point that generally a prerequisite to having children is having a partner? Those that are unattractive are by definition less likely to. PP bizarrely acting like its horrible to say that these three traits are negative and then reinforce that viewpoint (and shit on baldies too) by saying stuff like "he was a 6'1" head turner" or "I even like baldies". Accept that this is how shallow some women are and accept the obvious consequence on whether men have children

I agree - I find many tall men a bit scary, I don't like being loomed over.

Wow. Well my DP is a childfree man, he is short (I love short men - I have never dated a tall man!) but he's attractive and a high earner! Nothing like lumping all people into one box.

I score 2/3. At least I'm bloody attractive.

It's sad and disappointing to read such judgemental attitudes, particularly as two out of three of those attributes are fixed and unchangeable unless we're speaking of a man who indulges in Korean beauty regimes.

It smarts that bit more when it comes from the female gender, historically suppressed and controlled by the patriarchy until more recently. It's great that women are gaining a prominent foothold in the arena of social justice, and it's long overdue for them to be on a power level par with their male counterparts.

With that said... THAT minority of women who spout such prejudice and harbour such traditional views as "short=manlet" "low earner, no breadwinner" have removed from beneath them their ground for complaint when the "Chad" they just met calls her "bitch" and "whore" and inevitably leaves her for some younger "tarty bit".

Check your frequency.

As a woman people are literally obsessed with my average 5 foot 3 height. God knows how my short son will fare. Horrible attitude.

I agree too. I am short for a woman and when I had a partner just a couple of inches taller than me, he totally converted me to men my own height! Our bodies just fit together so well!

Also turns out he was serially cheating on me with multiple women, so he sure as hell had no problem attracting women despite being short. Wasn’t wealthy either.

I agree - I find many tall men a bit scary, I don't like being loomed over

Woah no need to slag off tall men. I'm 5'2 and have dated men of varying heights, one the same height as me. I did then end up marrying a man well over 6 foot. If height is irrelevant it works both ways.

@CosmicSoup It smarts that bit more when it comes from the female gender, historically suppressed and controlled by the patriarchy until more recently...calls her "bitch" and "whore" and inevitably leaves her for some younger "tarty bit".

It came from one woman, no need for the vitriol

You're entitled to that view

I'm 5'8 and built like a Russian shotputter. I don't want a partner that makes me feel even bigger.

I'm not slagging them off and not saying they're doing anything deliberate. I simply find very tall men make me nervous.

I told my husband from the start I wanted a business and animals rather than children. He had no hesitation about my decision. He is six foot six, looks like Rob Lowe but better with beautiful long brown hair. I am very lucky and I know that but it certainly flys in the face of all that nonsense. He also has a really caring soul something that I imagine the woman who said that will never meet as that level of person would never have anything to do with someone so bitter.

5ft7 and I'm a dad, ds was not planned, but that makes no difference to me I still love him to the end of the earth and would if I was 5ft2 or 6ft2 and unattractive

Have they ever watched an episode of Jeremy Kyle. I always wondered how these men managed to reproduce with anyone, let alone the multiple women fighting over them.