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changingsoon · 18/06/2010 06:53

how do you follow eyfs when chld comes for 2 hours after school couple of nights a week (age 5) and you have 4 other chidren who all want to go in the garden every night and give them all a cooked meal. parent has complained i dont follow eyfs and do enough educational structure!! never had a complaint before and am in bit of a state lol. loads more but dont want to go into it on here

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moogster1a · 18/06/2010 08:33

I don't!! I'd be tempted to tell the parent to get a grip and point out the poor kid's been at school all day. Also, you're not a private tutor for the older children.
if you must,Give the child a scrapbook and he can stick in his own bits of drawing etc. he does at yours. Also set aside 10 mins. at the end of the day for him to write in what he played with at your place.
You don't need to do anymore.
By the way, when's his birthday/ He might be out of EYFS completely by 5.
Also, what exactly does she want you to do in terms of educational structure?

BoysAreLikeDogs · 18/06/2010 08:43

crikey

if you break it down into

time taken to get home from school 15 mins?

time to relax and rest (a right of the child under UNHCR) 1/2 hour?

time taken to eat tea 20 mins?

that leaves 55 minutes

(These are just ballpark figures)

so in that 55 minutes they can be

chalking (CLL)and (CD)
taking turns (PSE)
playing outside (PD)
counting plates and cups as the table is set(PSRN)
talking about where food comes from (KUW)

I think if you wite her a letter explaining how you cover the 6 areas of learning then she can accept it or terminate the contract

changingsoon · 18/06/2010 09:31

i quite agree with both of you. i have 6 after school inc my under 3s. do you do homework and reading with individuals? none of the minders i spoke to locally do

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changingsoon · 18/06/2010 10:19

and waht about diaries? she will be yr 1 in sept

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moogster1a · 18/06/2010 10:24

What about them? If she wants to do a diary herself, fair enough. I wouldn't dream of doing one for a child of that age. A quick run down verbally to mum of whether she ate dinner or not is fine.
What month is her birthday/ She's out of EYFS in the August after her 5th birthday.

BoysAreLikeDogs · 18/06/2010 10:28

no diaries after reception

you could use a small notebook as a communication book to go between you and the parents for things like teacher has said there is a letter in the book bag today

changingsoon · 18/06/2010 10:32

i am starting to feel much better now, thanks for all your coments, never do diaries for schoolies and or homework and not starting now

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atworknotworking · 18/06/2010 10:44

I have one thats with us about 45mins, parents couldn't really give a stuff about EYFS, frankly they have been at school all day, by the time they have had tea and played with the other children it's time for home.

I do however have a learning journey for mindee, it's rather thin. Don't do planned obs but link stuff that I see through play.

I agree with the poster who said you arn't a tutor / homework helper, I also only do daily diaries for children under 4 (unless a specific need arises).

Ask the school for their planning, and just put notes on theirs, which will show that you are offering continuity, just take the notes from stuff you see them doing through play.

Al1son · 18/06/2010 16:06

You are following the EYFS by talking at the dining table, modelling good manners, providing a healthy diet, allowing a child to rest, getting them to help with food preparation/clearing away, etc. the list is endless really.

I would write out a typical session and list every bit of the EYFS you can find that each activity covers. Then these parents will see how much 'education' their child is getting without one to one reading or homework help or whatever else it is they think you should be doing.

CarrotGirl · 18/06/2010 16:46

Sounds like a difficult parent to me. It's prob not very professional but I would seriously think about giving notice.

As for educational STRUCTURE, I would remind her you are not a school.

Can you provide learning opportunities in the garden? Planting and watering is great as once the planting is done, she can just water every day and maybe measure plant growth, count seedlings, etc. Maybe do writing with chalk on paths, patios, walls, etc.

changingsoon · 18/06/2010 18:32

i like the idea of a typical session, i provide a very typical day sheet for prospective clients but this would be a good idea i think. just more paper work and more time away from my own family lol.
carrotgirl, notice served - first time ever lol

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CarGirl · 18/06/2010 18:35

glad you served notice, what a nightmare (I'm a parent not a cm btw)

changingsoon · 18/06/2010 18:38

i feel even better now lol. thanks

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changingsoon · 26/06/2010 07:07

does anyone have a policy regarding homework and not doing it!!! should i add something for new clients do you think to avoid any mixups >

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minderjinx · 26/06/2010 07:18

I am happy for schoolies to do their homework here (and some have, though they're out of EYFS anyway) but they just sit up at the table with their books and I keep an eye on them as I make the tea, but it's really no different to them sitting up and doing a bit of colouring. I also listen to them reading if they want to do that, but certainly don't force it on them if they'd rather chill or play. I certainly don't do diaries for any after school kids, but I do have a typical week's activity sheet as part of the stuff I give parents when they join,

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