a child cut daughters hair help

[janett]

my friends daughter attends a pre school. She has had her hair chopped really badly by another child. staff have apologised . Is it possible to sue or is it just one of the things that happen? thanks

i rem that thread

and no, you cant sue the parents of the child but i would be having words with the pre school etc as what were they doing when the hair was being cut

but to put into prespective (sp)

hair grows again on healthy children - my friends little girl has no hair as is having chemo and may never have hair again as wont be alive long enought to grow it

"hair grows again on healthy children - my friends little girl has no hair as is having chemo and may never have hair again as wont be alive long enought to grow it "

That really does put it into perspective

That puts it into perspective perfectly, Blondes.

All good wishes to your friend and her daughter.

What would you sue for?

Seriously - sue on what basis?

You sue if you need to reclaim damages for something - loss of income, medical treatment, etc.

Your DD has had no loss of earning I presume and has not requied medical treatment for cut hair I assume. Even if she has been cut and injured you'd not have anything to sue for I am afraid.

I know it will feel horrid seeing her hair cut like this BUT it will grow back. You can have it chopped into a neat little bob cut and it will eventually look more and more "normal" and in a few months it'll be something to laugh about and tease her about.

You would sue for negligence on the part of whoever should have been watching the children.
If I cut your hair off in the street/pub/park you'd have a case for assault against me.

You're talking about children though mamatomany! Can you not accept that with the best will in the world, an adult can't supervise every child every second? Or maybe we should just have all the children sat nice and safely in front of us, not moving around or playing with anything, never let them in the garden or on a climbing frame, make them use a potty in the middle of the room so they're never in the toilet on their own?

I accept kids are kids, my children cut each others hair one day whilst I was out with my eldest I went fcuking mental at DH because it was lucky it was only the hair that was damaged, eyes being the biggest concern, if I am paying somebody to watch my child then yes I do expect them watched every second they are in that persons care.

"if I am paying somebody to watch my child then yes I do expect them watched every second they are in that persons care. "

So while one of the nursery workers has her eyes on your child every second of the day, who is watching the others? If you want this level of vigilance, then get a nanny and don't allow her to use teh loo, answer the phone or make a cup of tea at any point in her working day.

Good luck with the court case.

Who said I was going to court ?

Personally as I said I think 8 three year olds is too much for anyone to watch properly which is why I wouldn't use that particular type of childcare, more a case of good luck to those that do !

To give you an example mamatomany, in a pre-school room there may be 24 children and three adults. One adult is outside with 8 of the children, one adult has gone to take a child who has wet themselves to get changed, and one adult is in the classroom with the other 15 children. Some children are sitting at the table cutting and sticking, some are playing in the home corner and some are sitting on the floor building with duplo. Which child should the adult be watching?

You see I find that worrying that the ratio is not only so high but that the adult can leave the room even momentarily and that's acceptable.
Surely it should be a case of phoning somebody to relieve you whilst you take the child to the toilet so the ratio's don't drop ?
And when I nannied for two little boys, I pee'd when they were a sleep and rarely had a cuppa, it's part of the job

I have never come across a nursery that maintains a 1:4 ratio for over 3s, it must be very, very unusual. It's not practical for most settings to have extra staff hanging around ready to cover in case a child needs their bottom wiped.

I spent a long time looking at nurseries and we've been through some god awful ones but I guess you get what you pay for and I wanted one that wouldn't have 24 children in a room nevermind only 3 adults looking after them. They are around but it took me a long time to find one and their waiting list is long and reflects what parents want I guess.

Even a nanny can't watch EVERY second of the day ESP if have 3 of different ages and I'm changing the babies bum. What is my 4yr doing!!

Tho I pee /make a cuppa etc when they are awake. I just make sure they are in a safe environment

tbh it shouldn't have happened but it did and as with most accidents happened in a split second

if a child at nursery fell off climbing frame and broke arm/leg would you sue?

OP It is something that does just happen. Not necessarily at a nursery/preschool but often at home. My friends DD cut almost all her hair off and had to have a very short all over cut and it took 3 years for her hair to grow back to something resemvling a girls haircut.
You can't possibly think sueing the child/parents/nursery is a good or even sane idea. Accidents happen all the time even with better then normal supervision. I have worked at a nursery where on a particular day there was 6 staff to 22 kids and one still managed to pull the bookcase over. It is hard enough watching 2 children but when you have several and they are spread out it is even harder.
Scissors are dangerous but a finger could seriously damage an eye, should we ban them.

I do agree that Ofsted rules have made it hareder for nursery staff. We used to have a timetable for indoor/outdoor play and a group rota for the gluing and cutting table. Now they have to be able to access outdoor play whenever they like and to do any activity they like. Keeping a 1:8 ratio is harder, nigh on impossible when kids have total freeriegn like that.

Oh and by the way hair does grow, it isn't a finger

It happened to me when I was little. A week before my cousin's wedding. I still have the photos of a very bad (almost) crew cut. My parents could not stop laughing. Nowadays she gives my DS haircuts. (She improved a lot mind.) My childhood haircut is still mentioned every time complete with getting the photos out.

Hair can grow back and if you are shallow enough to think that your child isn't still beautiful just because she's no longer got long hair then you really need to get your priorities right, children aren't fashion accessories and neither should they be used as pawns in a 'get money quick' lawsuit idea

indeed hair does grow back if child is healthy

not every child is lucky and yes lollipopmother all children are beautiful regardless if have no hair/birthmarks or other facial/body disfigurements

i think op is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay over reacting!!!

OK - so sue for negligence say? Then what? What do you hope to gain - financial compensation? For what? What are the "damages" you want to suee for? Has your daughter been so injured after the child cut her hir as to require medical assitance requiring you to have time off work unpaid? Will she need long term care that means yiou cannot work? There is no point in suring unless you have some damages you are actually claiming for - a dodgy hair cut for a few weeks is not damages!

If you want one to one supervision for your child you need to find alternative childcare. A nursery is not the place for you. You need a nanny or a childminder willing to only look after your child.

Well if she has more than one child she will require more than one Nanny. A childminder would be no good as they can have more than one child.

As it happens I plan to look after my own children, I've been down this road of nurseries and nanny's and won't be making the same mistake again.

We live and learn.

An older mindee cut my DD's hair when she was three. Family then had the nerve to make an Ofsted complaint against me because "scissors are for use in school only." Ofsted obviously disregarded their claim but having to deal with the family was far more stressful than the state of my daughters hair.

So you're only going to have one child under the age of culpability at a time, then? And never leave them unsupervised for a minute?

That seems completely illogical to me! They're children, accidents happen, you can't watch them 24/7 or they'll end up with some kind of complex.

Its really sad that suing is even coming to mind.