Nannys - does this sound reasonable or taking the mick?

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I have a holiday nanny for my 2 children who I pay £7.50 per hour net for.

I always organise the kids activities during the day, and book as necessary, and the nanny takes them, and stays if necessary. Alternatively other days may be spent going out for the day to theme park, zoo or similar. I pay all entrance fees, and provide lunch and snack money for dc and nanny. The nanny uses own vehicle, and I do not pay petrol money.

For May half term, my two dc want to go to an activity centre for the day 9am-4pm, that is an hour away. Now I'm planning on saying to the nanny which has always been the case for local events, I pay 8am-6pm and the rest of the day is their's as long as they are contactable should the centre need to contact them.

I'm thinking is it fair enough to still just pay the 8am-6pm, if she's got a 2 hour round trip so 4 hours driving if she wants to come back home during the day. Or as I am asking this is this unfair and I should pay extra? For what I'm not sure, petrol, inconvenice.

Well on one hand she has most of the day free, but on the other hand if you want her to be available to pick the children up in an emergency she can't really come home can she? So it's not much of an advantage. I think you should pay petrol money probably.

yes, as you are still expecting her to be contactable during the day you still should pay her for this as she doesn't really have the day to herself (has to be nearby).

i think if you are paying for petrol then just the journey there and back once and not for her to come home and then go back again. IYSWIM

Ok petrol money -
Distance 30 miles - work pay me 40p a mile which I believe is also government thing for travel on business (could be wrong on this) so that would be £12.

Is that acceptable?

is that 30 miles each way or the total trip?

D'oh - glad you asked that booyhoo. It's 30 miles each way - £25 acceptable?

i would say that sounds very acceptable. if i was your nanny i would be happy with that.

Good - now I don't feel cheeky when I let her know that's what the kids would like to do.

personally I think you should pay 40p per mile, as most nannies get paid

yes you should pay nanny for all day, unless you are happy for her at short notice to be unavailable for you for random days she doesnt feel like working...

Nannyl - no question of paying her for full day. More than happy to pay for full day, was wondering if I should pay more than the full day.

You need to pay petrol money of 40p per mile

yes pay her all day but tbh I wouldn't go home if I was her as if something happened at the club then she needs to be near ESP as you are paying her all day for her time

tell her to find a starbucks and a mag and chill there.

So no don't pay more. You are already paying her fir her time and she will be childless for most of it

Fortunately plenty to do in the surrounding areas - such as retail therapy, museums, scenic walks etc

Blondes do you mean don't pay more than the petrol? or don't pay more than the agreed rate? I presume you mean pay petrol, but no more than normal hourly rate.

I agree. Very fair to pay full day and also petrol. She can have a nice day pottering about and getting paid. Lovely. My nanny would be very happy with that.

i think blondes means dont pay more than her daily rate...

BUT she does need to be paid 40p per mile as well as her daily rate... (and a few £s for a coffee / lunch from boots or whatever would be kind too!)

Cool I can do that - happy nanny=happy kids=happy mum

Sorry meant don't pay more than daily rate and petrol

sounds a lovely day to me and your nanny is lucky

Lucky nanny to have an employer like you

I agree with the others - daily rate plus petrol when she presents mileage to you.

Also re milage, if you don't expect/need her to come back to the house during the day on her own, then you should only pay mileage when she has your children in the car, or on her way from where-ever she is locally to pick them up.

I would set a mileage limit for that though so she doesn't decided to go somewhere 10 miles away and put that down as local pick up mileage, as you say there is lots to do in the area, I would prob set it at 4 miles max so 2 miles there and 2 miles back.

Also if she uses her own car to take your children to holiday clubs etc normally then you should be paying her mileage allowance anyway, to cover the wear and tear on her car as well as petrol costs, which as we know aren't cheap these days.

You do sound like a lovely employer though, your nanny is very luckly

eeyore12 I take your point re out and about, I may say that 5 miles keep it nice and round figure.

with regards to local holiday clubs, she suggested that as she is effectively being paid to do no work, and can do her own thing, she suggested not to complicate matters with mileage claims. and was happy with that - I of course checked, and did not argue too strongly the other way