Child who should be in school FT but isn't. Are they included in my 0-5 age / classed as a rising 5?

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I'm confused; I look after a child who should be gong to school full time this year. But he wont be, as he has ASD and his parents are integrating him into a mainstream school which will take time.

So technically he should be a rising 5, but my certificate says, "when caring for 4 or 5 year old children in full time education may increase the number in the early years age group.."

So, is he included?

I think he is probably included in your numbers still. Under the old National Standards, it was phased as 10 educational sessions a week... rather than "in full time education".
I don't think the general concept has changed, it's just phrased differently.

What happens when children start school and it's a staggered entry - such as attending mornings only for the first few weeks? Is a variation needed from Ofsted to cover that introductory period?

Technically I agree that he is a rising 5 but he isn't in full time education until such point that he is attending full time. Thus according to the wording on your certificate, you won't be able to increase the number in the early years age group.

That's my view... may not be right though.

Thanks Nick, I think he is included too. When they start school and do staggered entry they still count in your number until they start full time (I think).

I have a clash with a new enquiry which will put me over my under 5 numbers by 1 child, but I have 1 space in my 5-8 group. Might have to apply for a variation then!

sorry all, morning bump!

Would it not depend on how the school are registering him? If he entitled to attend full-time at school, and the place is there for him for the full 10 sessions, but the parents are choosing not to send him in for all 10, what are the school recording his absence as? If they are recording it as 'authorised absence' then he is technically in full-time education.

If he is officially attending part-time (ie. they couldn't just choose to take him all week rather than keeping him out for some of the time) then that is different IMO.

Hmm this is getting very confusing now - I will ask his parents how it's being recorded. I only look after him for 2 afternoons a week but there is no way I'm giving notice (before anyone mention the obvious) so I can fit the other child in as I love having him here.

Ofsted have emailed me 2 different answers, so they are no help as ever!