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Im a nanny only work 3 days a week and i got asked if i would be willing to work 4 days a week (unpaid) and in summer i would get 2 weeks off but no pay.
I do not need the time off its the family.
Do other nannies do this?
I dont think financially it would work.
WWYD?

so they want you to work for free?!

I wouldn't ask my nanny to do it

I wouldn't agree to that.

So you work a day from now to get 2 weeks off with no pay?

I would be giving notice I think.

Nope!

You work the days which are in your contract. If they want you to work more then they pay you overtime.

Holiday - check your contract but usually they can choose 2 weeks (and still have to pay you) and you can choose 2 weeks, which plus the bank holidays makes the 5.6 week entitlement. So the 2 weeks in the summer can be their holiday choice. If you're available for work and they don't want you they should still pay you. Why should you lose money for that? That's part of the benefit of being an employee - protection and predictability.

I would:

take my contract
point out the relevant bits
consider the matter closed!

yeah basically.

I got told mum who only works 3 days so will be working 4 days too wont be getting paid for that extra day. so thats why they cant afford to pay me for the extra day.

Surely the 2 weeks should be a paid?

I used to work and when I worked extra days I was either given paid extra leave or given extra pay in lieu of time off. So if I worked 4 days for 6 weeks instead of 3 I would get 6 days pay extra or 2 weeks extra leave fully paid in addition to my normal leave.

They are basically asking you to work for 2 weeks for free

I used to work as a nanny it should say.

Is she really not getting paid for a 4th day?

Her problem, not yours.

I would seriously be considering giving notice. Why would you work for a family are trying to shaft you?

thanks for the quick responses.

They have already taken their the 2 weeks hol.

Will go and dig out the contract

who are....

If they have already taken their holiday and wish to take more that is their issue not yours - you are not choosing to be off that time and you should be paid for it. If you were taking the extra time after you had taken your leave then understanadble but they are taking the P

You are entitled to 4 weeks holiday - it doesn't matter what it says in the contract it is illegal to not let you have less than 4 weeks hols and it must be paid.

FAB - my thoughts exactly i cant she her working for free. She works for a well known company too.

She got me quickly when i was busy with charges but im 98% sure she asked me 2 work for free.
I will double check when i go back

Actually Ivy you're entitled to 5.6 weeks

That includes bank hols though - but seeing as the OP only does 3 days and most bank hols are a Monday if she only had 4 weeks then she could be losing out.

If the contract says they choose 2 weeks and you choose 2 and they've had their 2 then toughskies!!!! You're available to work.

i do work mondays so i do get bank hols off

working mondays so you get bank holidays off isn't beneficial. You are entiled to 20 days annual PAID leave plus 8 bank holidays a year or pro rata that total amount if you only work 3 days per week. So 3/5 of 28 days. In most cases of people who work Mondays you will owe your employer time off which will be deducted from your overall entitlement.

3/5ths of 28 days is 19 days...that includes your bank holiday entitlement. Bank holidays don't always fall on a Monday i.e. Xmas or Easter. Review your contract and make sure you are not being shafted. The other issue with taking that much TOIL (time off in lieu) is that it will affect your overall tax situation, point that out to them and see what they say.

Sorry that should be 17 days not 19....

Doing holiday/annual leave in hours can make life more straight forward - rather than days if you are part time

So they want you to work an extra day every week for free, so thats 52wks less your 5wks hols = 47days extra per year for nowt
What a cheek.

If she isnt being paid thats her decision, she should have checked childcare costs before agreeing.

I can't belive the nerve of some people

Can you confirm the following:

1. They are asking you if you will accept a change to the contract such that you go from working 3 days a week, to 4 days a week.

1. There is no additional pay on offer.

1. You currently get 16.8 days holiday, or more (note, the 16.8 days can include bank holidays if you do not work them but they fall on a working day)

in summer i would get 2 weeks off but no pay.

Is that 2 weeks an extra two weeks on top of your holiday entitlement (22.4 days, as contract would be 4 days a week, rather than 3)? Note: Working out holiday entitlement may get rather fun for this as you may be changing from 3 to 4 days part-way through the holiday year. May need to use other ways of calculating holiday entitlement.

Is this a temporary change to contract or permanent?

If you did not agree to working 4 days a week... what would happen then? Worth thinking about as one thing that may happen is that you no longer have the job. The job is changing, you are being offered the new job, so if you refused it, I think they could give you notice under contract and hire someone else who could do all 4 days for the amount they want to pay.

As a nanny employer I think she is being very cheeky.If you want your nanny to work an extra day you pay her.

If she cannot afford to pay you this sounds very dubious.

It sounds like your employer would like a bit extra summer holiday so is banking the extra day I presume to take at a later date at her convenience.

My 3 day nanny has extra holiday on top of her contract as between us we have more weeks holiday than her contract.I wouldn't expect her to trade this off against any extra I expected her to work.Any extra days she does she is paid normal rate for.