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Au pair has just picked up a speeding ticket

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playftseforme · 10/04/2010 21:31

Just received a police notice advising me of Intention to Prosecute because AP's car was caught doing 40 in a 30 mph zone by a speeding camera. I never drive the AP's car and my dh is abroad so there is no question of who was driving. I think that the AP ought to take responsibility (and the points) although I'm prepared to help with the fine. Or am I being unreasonable? (sorry if I should have posted in the AIBU section)

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BelleDeChocolateFluffyBunny · 10/04/2010 21:33

Have you spoken to her about it?

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playftseforme · 10/04/2010 21:35

No, I plan to do that tomorrow - I just wondered whether anyone thought that I was off the mark expecting her to take responsibility.

(I'm pg at the moment, and whereas normally I'd handle a difficult conversation w no bother, I'm getting in a hormonal tizz about this one...)

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OrientCalf · 10/04/2010 21:35

of course the AP should take responsibility (and pay the fine or pay you back if they can't afford it straight away)

BelleDeChocolateFluffyBunny · 10/04/2010 21:36

Well, she was speeding so she should take responsibility for this and pay the fine. She knows the laws here, she must follow them.

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playftseforme · 10/04/2010 21:37

And will it make a difference that the AP is driving on a european licence not a UK one?

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Needanewname · 10/04/2010 21:37

Of course she should - she was the one speeding!

Needanewname · 10/04/2010 21:38

don't forget to inform your insurance company otherwise the insurance will be invalid

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playftseforme · 10/04/2010 21:39

Thanks needanewname, didn't think of that

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jeansnolongerfit · 11/04/2010 10:33

Yes i agree, it is her fault and her responsibility. Don't pay (or help pay) her fine, what will she learn from that?
You may have to deduct a small amount over a period of time, but she will be more careful next time.
Does she know about the risks of speeding? were your child/ren in the car? maybe mention this as well, she should be super apologetic.

Good luck

Blondeshavemorefun · 11/04/2010 12:10

it happens

i have points for speeding but i was on the motorway and not working

ap should def pay the fine and take the points and yes tell insurance - fine for me was £60 so maybe detuct 1/4of her wages for a month as obv the fine is almost her weekly wage

Rosa · 11/04/2010 12:16

Agree she should pay even if over a period of time. Also if points are involved then they get taken off the European licence as well this is what I was told ( having said that my points gained in Italy did not make it 6 mths later on my new licence when it ran out )

HerBeatitude · 11/04/2010 12:23

God of course she should pay.

Doing 40 in a 30 zone is unbelievably anti-social. Far worse than doing 80 on the motorway, because there are likely to be pedestrians around and if you hit one at 40 you'll probably kill them.

She should also take the points - why should you pay higher insurance costs because she's an anti-social driver?

frakkinnuts · 11/04/2010 12:26

Yes she pays the fine and takes the points.

The UK may insist she exchanges her license for a British one so she can add points as international licenses can be very difficult to sort out points for.

FabIsGoingToGetFit · 11/04/2010 12:28

She should take the points and pay the fine. Lesson needs to be learnt. Was she driving your children at the time?

FabIsGoingToGetFit · 11/04/2010 12:29

IIRC european licences are not for use here.

frakkinnuts · 11/04/2010 12:33

Actually you can drive indefinitely in the UK on a European license as long as it was issued by an EU country.

frakkinnuts · 11/04/2010 12:34

Okay not quite indefinitely but until you're 70!

FabIsGoingToGetFit · 11/04/2010 12:54

I had a feeling I was wrong about the licence thing but on one of the police shows someone was done for driving on a non British licence.

Shaz10 · 11/04/2010 12:56

Was it EU though?

Strix · 11/04/2010 19:55

Don't forget your insurance is probably going to go up now as well. If she doesn't like paying the fine, you might remind her you are covering the insurance. I might be inclined to charge her for the insurance increase as well if it had been previously discussed. But if you've never discussed this with her then I'd suggest you cover the insurance. But, it is not your ticket. You couldn't lawfully take the points for her if you wanted to. And, of course, it is her fine as well.

If you are feeling generous you migh offer her extra work to earn more money to help her pay it (b-sitting, whatever you think is appropriate).

DadInsteadofMum · 11/04/2010 20:45

Was it at a time whn the kids would havebeen int he car? UNder my terms that would constiture a written warning as misconduct (but not gross).

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playftseforme · 12/04/2010 11:17

Thanks everyone - posted the form back with AP's details on it today. Soon see what happens next. I had a chat with her on Sunday and she was mortified as she had never picked up any tickets before. I raised the point about my dd being in the car, but I didn't push too hard because the day it happened she had been called to pre-school to collect dd early due to an ear infection and was probably quite distracted as dd was pretty distressed. Still no excuse I know...

Going to phone insurers now to advise that a penalty is pending...

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