how much?

[Funky2sarah]

hi guys

well as you all seem to be a fountain of knowledge,please help!!

I am giving up looking for a nanny job that I can take my own child to, after 15 yrs in the business, I am no longer employable...forget the great references etc..... grrr dont get me started!

So, How much would it cost in woking/surrey to put my little one into a CM for say 3 days 9-5 or 10-4?

thanks

i agree with blondes you will still walk away with more if you reduce your rate than you would if you pay a childminder out of your wage but then maybe neither of these are actually finacially affordable for you to do

I agree with blondes, lowering your own rate would leave you with more money than sending your child to a CM.

Plus I wonder how much of this has to do with having your own child v your attitude. I don't mean to be rude but you sound very entitled and I'm wondering if this is coming across to parents as you being not very easy to work with?

How long have you been in your current role? Do you say with job for a long time? Could it be your CV not your child that's causing the problem, after all you said lots of the people you applied to were happy for nannies to bring their own children.

i tried to help but agree with Navy...you seem more content with blaming the family you're presently with and other families for not wanting your services rather than trying to be positive and looking at yourself..see other peoples opinions..im guessing this agressive side of your personality may have come across in interveiws as it came out in your second post despite everyone being nice and trying to offer help!

i tried to help too but agree with Navy...you seem more content with blaming the family you're presently with and other families for not wanting your services rather than trying to be positive and looking at yourself..see other peoples opinions..im guessing this agressive side of your personality may have come across in interveiws as it came out in your second post despite everyone being nice and trying to offer help!

Are you finding jobs in our area that are paying the amount you need... so jobs paying £350-400 net per week? (Please do try to use Gross figures if possible. £454 to £526 Gross per week I think is equivalent. Net to Gross calculator)
If so, are you getting interviews for those jobs? If not, are you getting any feedback with regard to why you are not getting an interview?

If you want me to take a look at your CV, send it via e-mail - I suspect you know my e-mail address (or could find it out easy enough )

cheryl you have hit the nail on the head..i cant drop my daily rate, I just couldnt survive on £65 per day, it doesnt pay my bills. I am not being greedy,just need to earn £70/day.I am looking at mothers help/nanny/housekeeper, in fact any role that would accept nanny with own child.
Nick in answer to your question - There are plenty of jobs I would travel too in my area with the hrs and not too many kids, the agencies say they have sent my CV but they fail to come back to me.Most are offering upwards of £350 for full time but I am not asking for the top wage and always say rate is negotiable.

Pink chick - i havent scored an interview in a couple of months and havent even spoken to any of the families concerned, its all through agencies. Those that I have sent privately have said they no longer want nanny with own child after giving it some thought. So cant see how I come across as agressive when I have even spoken to the families..just the agencies!!

Nick - the one piece of feedback I have had is that I havent had longevity in a position for the last yr, well as it says on my cv, I have temped whilst looking for a permanent role.Prior to this I was made redundant after 3.5 yrs with the same family after returning from mat leave. The other family I nannied for at the same time, couldnt take me back after mat leave as she had a baby 4 wks before me! This is all explained in 1 sentence after my job description/duties, for every position. I have been unlucky that all my jobs have ended through no fault of my own, just family circumstance.

Anyway, guess I shall just keep plodding on, look for the lower end of the salary scale and the right job will be out there, hopefully one that will pay me on time, have food in the house and be able to afford me!!
thanks!!

I would hope that the agencies are not just sending your CV but are actually pre-selling you to clients first.

Lollipop has a couple of jobs where a nanny with own child will be considered. However I don't think those jobs will pay you enough, plus they are not full-time. If Ascot and Windsor are area's you could easily get to, then worth having a chat with Lollipop if you haven't already.

I can never understand why nannies think that they should be able to bring their own child to work for a minimal drop in rates. What other job would allow you to do this? Basically most people have to pay for full time childcare to do a fulltime job - why is it so different for a nanny? The rate you quote is more than a lot of people earn so why do you expect to have no childcare costs?

In any case may I suggest that you lose the attitude if you really want a job, you have such a sense of entitlement at the momenmt it's no wonder you are struggling to find an employer.

I hadn't thought of it that way. That's very very true. I pay a cm and I'm a teacher. It cuts hugely into our pay to pay the cm but we have to work to pay other bills and rarely have a lot left over to enjoy ourselves. Since I pay for childcare, it means that my take home wages are much, much lower in the end. But that's just the way life is...

Although I teach young children, I'd never even be able to consider bringing ds to work with me. I'm there to to my job. Looking after a toddler is full on, even if you put other kids first (which, if I'm totally honest, I'd never be able to do... I have a very strong work ethic. But my child comes first).
In fact, I can't think of any job where you can bring your own dc and get paid for it...
It does sound nice, though. I would love that

hi nannynick

thanks for the suggestion, I am already on lollipops books and those positions are not quite what im after.

and here I bow out...i love the way people judge you with written words! I dont have a "sense of entitlement" just what I need to earn to keep a roof over my families head. I appreciate it is a perk taking your own child to work and I dont think I ever said it wasnt!My son is looked after by grandparents 1 or 2 days a week, so isnt with me all the time.

Thanks everyone..sorry your all so upset by my posting, that was not my intention..i just wanted some friendly advice not the negative response i have got from some.

people were trying to give you advice funky2sarah but you snapped back. good luck finding what your looking for.

I have more sympathy for the OP. The subject of 'why should nannies get to to take their children to work with them when I can't' comes up often and I feel the point is always missed. Nannies expect to be able to bring their children to work because people are willing to employ them on that basis. Just as if I was a city lawyer I would expect to earn a hundred grand a year. In both cases whether my expectations are met or not depends on someone employing me on those terms. You set your expectations by what the market will bear. As a teacher, who made the decision to have a child, you would expect to paying a large portion of your salary for childcare.

I've stayed in childcare because when I have my own children I want to keep them with me while making some money. If I find that I can't do this I will be pissed off like the OP is, just as if I'd spent 5 years studying to be lawyer and couldn't get a well paying job.

we are here to help, but your replies were rather abrupt

you originally asked how much cms are as you cant find a job to take your child with you

so my reply was that you would earn more taking a paycut RATHER then earning a normal wage and then losing maybe almost half of it to a cm

and your reply was stroppy

your employer shouldnt pay you late and you need to stand up for yourself

good luck with the search

I wasn't trying to be negative. I had just never thought of nanny bringing dc to work in that way before. And then thought how appealing it would be if I could bring mine with me. But realized I wouldn't be able to put him 2nd to anyone anyway.

Interesting other side to it, too tender.

just trying to help otherwise. Sorry you are having a rough time. Best of luck.

could you cm?

a lot of crossed wires, as i said, i didnt mean to upset/be negative/agressive..i was just saying what my bottom line is.
The reason I asked about a childminder was not so that I could continue nannying, I am looking at a complete change in direction, that means I would have to put him into childcare, regardless.
I have looked into cm myself and placed an ad but havent had any enquiries plus I dont think OFSTED would like my house, not at all meeting their standards! All that red tape and paper work, risk assessments,crb for my mum and dad as they will be moving in with us in a couple of wks....big brother watching me...lol

Nanny with own child is obviously an emotive subject for me as nanny as for you guys as parents. We all have our opinions and who is to say whats right and whats wrong.
I chose to have a baby but I honestly didnt think it would be this hard to find a role as there always seemed to be jobs out there...then came the recession!

Pink - I have stood up for myself, even though it left my employers short, I insisted they did an immediate transfer and they did!

I am stroppy, I am opinionated, I do speak my mind, I am straight talking..I know this can be a downfall...its got me into trouble as much as its been very positive!!
Anyway guys in conclusion....I just want live a fab life, provide for my gorgeous son and husband and live happy ever after!!
Take care all!
x

could you move/travel to an area which pays better/has more jobs?

Maybe nursery nurse? Would you be able to have your own dc go at a reduced rate if you worked there?

I am already travelling 30-40 mins for my current role, I get out of bed at 6am as it is, don`t think I could survive and do a good job if I got up any earlier!!yaaawwwnnnnnn......lol

defo cant move as it wouldn`t suit my husbands job plus Surrey should be perfect, we moved just after my son was born, so again that wont be happening any time soon!

nursery nursing - doesn`t pay enough again. I have looked into night nannying instead and the one agency that I am registerd with has never in 3 yrs come up with any work for me!

hmmm..back to the drawing board!

I havent set up as a CM yet! Its something I have advertised as setting up to see if I get any enquiries...as I said I have looked into it .

could your parents help look after your dc while you nanny some of the time and maybe a cm the other part of the time? Then the cm price would be cut in half and you could earn more? Again, I don't know about the circs with your parents so maybe not.

ahhh ok, I meant I have first aid, CRB, nanny insurance etc..just need to register with my local council, I am already on the OFSTED register for nannying and cm.

parents help out 1 or 2 days a wk , hadnt thought of doing a split wk.I shall look into it but again, I am not good with "big brother" watching my everymove, having to account for every sneeze, not being able to be spontanious because I havent risk assessed where I am taking the kids.

in general - if you had a cm with a dog and no seperate playroom and also they had a hot tub in the garden, would you send your child to that cm?

If you only had to send your dc to cm 3 days/week for 8 hours each day, that would only be £120/week at £5/hour or £96/week at £4/hour (if you can find this in your area).

That's a lot better than paying for it full time.
Then you could make a regular nanny salary. But I don't know how many hours/day people need nannies for...