Boss ia always late

[marshmellows]

Lately my boss is always late in evenings and she will let me know that she will be home by a certain time a night before, and then on the day she will call me to say a different time and later in evening it will change again.She usually will change the times around 4-5 times, she doesnt seem to stick with her timings and basically brushes it under the carpet when i bring it up,she also never backs me up and i feel i cant work properly the way i do for example i feel if the child does not want to do music lessons because his hands hurt but wants to play on electronic games then he is capable with playing music but with this i get no back up.
I work in East london.

i am NOT a cm- but a friend of mine who was had this with one of her mindees. mum was constantly late dropping off- which made her own ds late for school. she would then turn up in the evening any thing up to an hour and a half late.

friend is not the most assertive person in the world but basically said she felt she was being treated like a servant and that her needs were utterly insignificant.

every time she tried to talk about it- mum was too busy.

In the end she wrote to her- along the lines of "i have tried to talk to you but this is not possible- if we are going to continue to have x you need to drop him off every day by x time and pick him up by y time and allow 15 mins one day a week to discuss how we are all getting on." she then went on to say that she was willing to commit to a further month to see if this would work and if not, she would have to give notice.

things magically improved.........

Jeez that sounds crap. Does she at least pay you for the overtime? Either way you need to have a strong word with her or consider getting a better job.

I think being late depends on what was discussed and/or is in the contract when agreed to take the job. And also it depends why she is late. For example if her work hours tend to run late and you knowe this and your are compensated for the extra time at a previously agreed rate, then I think this is okay.

If she is just being non-comittal cause she feels like it and is being generally disrespectful and unappreciative of your efforts, then it is a problem.

For the music, again, I think it depends. I'm sure I have some standards and prescribed activities for my kids that some of my nannies have not agreed with. But, they are my kids, I feel strongly about these things, and they will remain. If, however, she disregards everything you say on every subject, then I would say she is not being reasonable.

If you're a nanny, do you have a contract with the hours of your work clearly stated? If she is arriving within the agreed hours of work I would accept the inconvenience of not knowing when she's going to turn up. One of the reasons people might choose a nanny over a nursery might be because of the known irregularity of working hours. This should have been made clear before you started IMO and your contract agreement should cover all eventualities.

If she is arriving later than the agreed hours, I would expect a higher rate of pay for overtime and I would expect to be ASKED not told if I am available outside of my normal hours of work unless the contract states that I should be available eg, on certain days or for a maximum no of hours per week or something like that.

If the child's hands are too sore to play piano, write homework etc, I feel it is sensible to ban the use of electronic handheld games and other fun activities that might make them more painful. As a childminder I can make rules like that in my setting. But as an employee, if you are a nanny you have to follow what mum says on rules and boundaries even if you don't agree with it.

I think you need to ask for a meeting with Mrs Boss and try to reach an agreement.
In the meantime I'd be keeping a close eye on what other positions might be available. If you don't see eye to eye on these things you might be happier with a different family.

sounds a anightmare tbh

nannies NEED BACK UP or the job is sooooooooooo hard

what time are you meant to finish, and what time does mb normally roll in?

do you get paid overtime?

is there a db?

you need to sit down and have a chat about her timings, maybe work/trians have chnaged and she needs to be later home (annoying,but then you have to decide whether you want to work till xxxx time)

maybe work is manic at the moment for your mb,it is for my mb, and i am often starting earlier or working later, but she asks me and obv pays me over time

regards music,yes if cant play instrument as hands are tired, then def no play station,wii etc

Thankyou for your replies.No dont get paid for over time. The problem is not that she is running late from anywhere because it happens alot and also when i took on the job things were different i started noticing changes 3 months later.So the way we agreed with things didnt last very long.but that is not with all of the stuff.The thing is i have never worked anywhere where the times are changed like this, it changes from sometimes me knowing im leaving late, then early then later and then early again. This is why im finding it confusing.

why dont you get paid for overtime?

didnt you discuss at interview and have in contract?

She is unreasonable. Have a contract review. Point out the hours. Tell her your hourly rate for extra hours (but I would suggest you make it the same as your usual rate).

She is really being crap. Tell her to come to mn and we will set her straight for you.

Also, I suspect there are some communication issues inboth directions here. Makes sure you communicate this with her before you are so unhappy tht you are looking for another job.

hi, i dont know why but i think it might be becoz sometimes she lets me go home early and there are times when she gets me to have time off where i get paid the same for my full week and in return she wants it like this? i get worried to ask her as she always brushes things under carpet and yes in interview and contract it does say and she did say i will get paid over time.

also what are db ds and cm??

Speaking as an employer of a nanny I'd say it isn't acceptable not to pay overtime just because you sometimes come home early. Occasionally I agree with our nanny that she will make the hours up but that's usually when she's asked to go earlier. If I ask her to stay late I always pay overtime.

I think she's taking the piss, to be honest, and if you're not happy you need to discuss it now as it isn't going to resolve itself magically.

I give time off in lieu as a rule but I am always reliable in terms of coming home time and often come home earlier than the time we have arranged. I set the schedule up like that deliberately. I think if someone's been working their ass off for twelve hours, that's quite long enough, and they need a break.

db - dad boss
mb - mum boss,
ds - dear/darling son,
cm - childminder.

I agree her behaviour is not acceptable - letting a nanny go home early if not required does not mean that you can expect them to stay late another day! If she has the type of job which means that she doesn't know when she can leave until she's left then she needs to employ someone who is happy to work overtime if required and pay them for it. And only text her estimated time of arrival when she's out of the door of her workplace.
Is she an OK boss in other ways?

she is good otherwise yes. its just with times and backing up she is not good with.