Overnight care

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My dh and I have been invited to a wedding in the summer that we want to go to. The wedding is no children, and due to the distance involved we'd need to be away overnight.

We currently use a CM for after school care of our ds, and a nanny for holiday care for dd and ds.

Before I ask either of these whether they would be willing to do it, is there anything to stop a CM doing overnight, i.e. is there different registrations they need?

Would you expect to receive the same hourly rate for the period? Is there a reduced rate for sleeping time? i.e. we'd prob need childcare 10am-4pm - would it be x rate 10am-10pm y rate 10pm-7am x rate 7am-4pm or x rate 10am-4pm?

Any advice gratefully received.

Thanks.

A childminder must be registered with Ofsted to provide overnight care, so yes there is a process to go through

you would expect to pay quite a bit more than your normal day rate - just depends on the minder and your area

A childminder i know locally had to install fire doors as per the request of the fire brigade in order for Ofsted to grant her registration for overnight care. And I'd expect, like any variation to registration, the childminder would have to evidence they had thorough plans and provision to accomodate the change. For example, they would need to have proper sleeping arrangements available i.e a spare bedroom with appropriate beds for childrens ages. I think the best thing would be to ask your childminder if she is prepared to do this, but bear in mind that Ofsted may refuse.

As a CMer you have to be registered to have overnight care so your CMer may or may not be registered for it. The rate should be a less for overnight because the CMer is basically doing nothing apart from providing a safe and warm bed and supervision. (obviously it is a lot harder if the child is awake most of the night!) The usual rate around here for overnight is say from 7pm until 7am £15-£20

My nanny does the occasional over night for us. We pay her an extra £50 after normal baby sitting time (so 11pm ish) but extra if the child wakes up. I also make sure she's plenty of food etc. If you make it worth her while she'll probably say yes.

The breastmilk most CM's I know myself included charge quite a bit more for overnight care, especially if the child is young enough to wake during the night.

Average here is double time from normal contracted hours till bedtime, £30-40 for the overnight and then double time again in the morning until usual contracted time

Sorry age of children should of said is 13 and 5. Neither of them waking in night. It's more a case of an adult being in the house. Whether it's at their house or the CMs.
My dd could go to friends for a sleepover, but my ds wouldn't go somewhere for a sleepover without her. So hence why looking for childcare, rather than finding school friends etc.

Nothing to stop either coming to your home, this does not require registration. If the cm wants to do overnight in her home, you need to know if she is already registered for overnight (it will say on her certificate).

AFIK they don't seem to insist you have a visit from the Fire Officer any more before doing overnight, but childminders will usually have policies and procedures in place with regard to locking up & security, privacy and hygiene/bed time routine and emergency plans.

Charges are sometimes by the hour, or an overnight fee of around £50-80 for a set period eg 8pm - 8am. I'd expect breakfast to be included in a fixed overnight fee.

Shoshe- may be true for you but most CMers in my area charge very little for overnight.

Thanks for all the advice I will now see who is desperate enough for cash would like the pleasure of my dc

I'm a childminder but also work as a nanny for proxy parenting and stay overnight in the family home. The only thing I ad to do was get extra insurance from ncma for £26. As a childminder I am on all te necessary registers and did check wit ofsted.I charge £8 per hour.

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