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full time CM holiday entitlement

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milkandcookies · 17/02/2010 17:33

Hi

My hours are 8am - 6pm, Monday - Friday

what are my holiday entitlements? What notcie do I need to give?

Thanks

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juneybean · 17/02/2010 17:33

Are you a CM?

milkandcookies · 17/02/2010 17:41

Just in the process of being registered

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atworknotworking · 17/02/2010 17:48

Sorry chuck but if you are a CM you don't have holiday entitlement as such as you are s/employed.. Bumma aint it... but the good news is as you are s/employed you decide how many holidays you want, when to take them and if you still charge.

Some minders charge Full fee, some half fee, some charge nowt.

The NCMA suggest that CM' have 4 wks hols per year, but you don't have to if you dont want to.

Some CM's do term time only so get a lot of holidays, others like me only get 2 wks and the odd day here and their which is usually for courses . Iwould suggest though that if you are starting out I would book a few days off after 4, 5 mths in as most new minders don't realise how full on and nackerin minding is, and get really burnt out around this time.

Again its up to you how much notice to give, I give 2wks for unplanned (very rare) but do my holidy list a year in advance so parents have plenty of time to sort out alternative child care.

HSMM · 17/02/2010 20:06

I just don't charge when I am on holiday. My contracts state that the parents and I can take as much, or as little holiday as we like (they pay for theirs). In reality, I take about 2 weeks for family holidays and then odd days for training, taking my DD to competitions, etc. My contracts state that both parties need to give 4 weeks notice of holidays, but (like atwork) I often give them up to a year's notice.

TheBreastmilksOnMe · 17/02/2010 20:12

I take roughly 4 weeks off a year, every 3 months and I charge 1/2 price for my holidays and full price for theirs. I justify this by the fact that in order to be at my best, I need time off and the only way that I can afford the time off is if I charge 1/2 price. I try and coincide as much of my holidays as I can with my highest payer/full timer. Mostly though I just take long weekends off as I find it's enough for me to re-charge my bateries. A week's too long for me and I start to get bored!

xoxcherylxox · 17/02/2010 20:18

i take 6 weeks holiday which is 5 weeks annual leave and 5 public holidays. i have only recently put them up as i wanted to start taking more of the school holidays off to spend time with my daughter

milkandcookies · 17/02/2010 23:07

oh right so I have to decide that for myself lol, I don't like the idea of me choosing my holidays coz wouldn't want the parents thinking i'm taking liberties

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underpaidandoverworked · 17/02/2010 23:57

If you don't choose your holiday dates then you will end up taking hardly any, as I did (or didnt) the first year I was cm. I took 1wk in 12 mths because I didnt want to inconvenience parents and I was knackered and demented by the time I decided I came first!!!!

I've for the past 4 yrs taken 4wks per year and I notify parents in January of my time off - not negotiable! I don't charge for my holidays, but reflect that in my hourly rate. I also charge for bank holidays if they are a contracted day though it's clear in my contracts that if I am required to work the bank holiday then a higher hourly rate is charged - no1 in 5yrs has asked me to work one yet !

And believe me, parents (thought not all, before I get flamed) will take liberties if you let them. Set your stall out before you start minding and stick to your guns - good luck

HSMM · 18/02/2010 08:15

You can't let the parents decide, because if you look after children from more than one family, the chances of them taking holiday at the same time is pretty much zero, so you will end up with no time off.

thebody · 18/02/2010 08:29

I take 4 weeks unpaid a year and all bank holidays.. if I didnt have these I would quit.. you will find minding is very tiring and you will need the breaks. Make sure you charge parents for their holidays though so you have a sure income.

I ususally give lots of notice, 3 months or more so theres no quibbling and parents can take their breaks with mine though all of mine have to be in school holidays or I wouldnt spend any time with my daughter.

StarExpat · 18/02/2010 08:32

As a mother who uses a cm, I agree that cms should have a holiday or as many as they want. But I would NOT use a cm who charged full fees for their holiday time. Because it's not my holiday. I still have to work and would need to find and pay for alternative childcare. I couldn't afford to pay double fees for childcare for the length of the cm's holiday.
I would pay the cm full fees for any holiday that I decided to take, though.

jibbs · 18/02/2010 08:41

what do most of you do regarding bank holidays?

Do any of you charge for them but not work them? Do you charge more if they want to use yopu on a BH, if so by how much?

How many of you don't want to work them so don't charge anything for them?

StarExpat · 18/02/2010 08:50

I thought no one had to work on bank holidays? Right? Or am I wrong? I just thought I'd pay but not use my cm on a bh because I'm not working so obviously I'd want ds home with me but it's not her fault it's a bh. I still get paid for a bh.

StarExpat · 18/02/2010 08:54

I think you should charge extra for it if they actually do want to use you as it's sort of like "overtime", right? I guess unless the parent has a job where they have to work on a bh and have no other choice. Just realized that some shops are open on bh so some people do work...

HSMM · 18/02/2010 09:02

I don't ever want to work Bank Holidays. I state this in my contract and don't charge them. I know some CMs who do work Bank Holidays though.

onadayliketoday · 18/02/2010 09:32

I charge nothing for my holidays (4 weeks per year in school holidays), and nothing for Bank Hols. I don't expect to work Bank Hols but if I was asked to and could do it it woould be at a premium rate. I charge for all mindees' time off, but only half rate if in school hols (up to a max of 4 weeks per year). This encourages them to take hols when my DD is off school; also so I have less children in school hols, making trips easier.

HappyMummyOfOne · 18/02/2010 13:48

Most parents will not be willing to pay for your holidays as the service is not available and they may have to find alternative care which means more costs.

Charging for their holidays is fine as you are open and its their choice not to attend but I would never used childcare that charged if the service was closed due to holidays. Part of the downside to being s/e is no paid sick pay or holidays.

TheBreastmilksOnMe · 18/02/2010 13:58

All my parents pay me half the fee for my time off happymummyofone and I've had no complaints. If they don't like it then they can go elsewhere!

islandofsodor · 18/02/2010 14:15

Oh if only no-one had to work on bank holidays!!!!

Seriously there is no legsal entitlement for an employee (and childminders are self employed) to have bank holidays off.

I used to regurlaly be rotored for them.

Now my dh is self employed (in schools & colleges mostly) he does not get paid for days he does not work.

I would not pay a childminder personally for days they were not available. In this respect I actually found nursery cheaper and more convenient.

BoysAreLikeDogs · 18/02/2010 17:49

I charge if they are away outside of my holiday dates - I take 4 weeks per year, in addition I work only 3 days per haf term not 4

I issue the next years holiday dates in Oct each year

I don't like working BHs so don't charge for them but if I was asked to work one and it fitted in with my plans then I charge double

no complaints from my parents

xoxcherylxox · 18/02/2010 22:14

i dont charge for annual leave (5 weeks) but charge bank holidays but these are usually holidays that the parents would be off anyway so wouldnt want to send there child so they dont have to pay double childcare. ie xmas,boxing day, new year and day afer, easter monday and mayb (although some ppl dp wrk may day)

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