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Yikes !!! We don't do summative assessments, do we???

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BoysAreLikeDogs · 26/01/2010 22:16

That's done at the end of the EYFS, usually by schools??

I have found a recent Ofsted inspection report stating that the non-accredited CM should be doing summative assessments

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navyeyelasH · 26/01/2010 23:07

not to my knowledge BALD but HSMM was just saying she does them on a termly basis.

Can I read the report you found by any chance or would that give something about you away IYSWIM?

I think I might stat doing it, mianly because I like to take stock of things every once in a while otherwise I get lost in all the paperwork!

BoysAreLikeDogs · 26/01/2010 23:09

this one here,, scroll down for recommendations to further improve blah blah

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navyeyelasH · 26/01/2010 23:20

Hmm bloody hell they can't agree what you need to be doing can they - I would be livid if I got pulled up on this as this is the first time I have seen it mentioned in any report and I've read well over 80!

A summative assessment would no doubt impress Ofsted but I'm not sure it's essential; it depends what grade you want I guess?

I am guessing that by summative assessment she means that long list of stuff they "should" be doing which is at the back of the pack?

Sounds like a bloody tick sheet to me!

BoysAreLikeDogs · 26/01/2010 23:22

yy a tick sheet by any other name

sheesh

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navyeyelasH · 26/01/2010 23:25

this looks good

But v v tick sheet like. I wonde rif you would be marked down for being so prescriptive!?

BoysAreLikeDogs · 26/01/2010 23:31

looks a bit prescriptive, but interesting nonetheless

I shall scratch my chin and think on

ta mate

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navyeyelasH · 26/01/2010 23:39

If you come up with any amazing solutions let me know!

Mabe we should start a mumsnet childmindng pool where we all just share our documents but close it off to joe public - exclusive MN club.

HSMM was saying on another thread that she just writes something down every term to consolidate how they have progressed which I like the idea of.

I suspect though that tick charts may be the way to go when it comes to handing over to school. I may print out one of those tick charts and tell the inspector that it gets filled it when the child leaves me / goes to school so the next person can see where they are at.

BoysAreLikeDogs · 26/01/2010 23:41

thanks for your help tonight mate

I shall ponder

Still waiting for my call

Over 3 years since my last inspection

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navyeyelasH · 27/01/2010 00:10

That's a bit random BALd could they be running behind? I think I'm be driving myself mad wondering "is this the week!" I like to get things done.

My inspection still hasn't happened! The inspector is off sick .

navyeyelasH · 27/01/2010 00:12

Also have you always noticed that it's us (and usually KatyMac) up at silly o'clock pondering bloody paperwork!

leeloo1 · 27/01/2010 00:39

I do do summative assessments, because I was concerned that we're told that the EYFS wasn't meant to be a tick list but that we were meant to be able to say how children had progressed... and I couldn't see how else to do it!

So, in the 1st month or so they're settling in/with me I take notes about what they can do and use those and what the parents have told me to write a quick report saying what the child's stage of development is in each of the 6 areas... if you have the EYFS beside you at the right pages then it gives you loads of ideas for what to cover, so it doesn't take too long.

Oh and then for each area I write in a couple of 'next steps' which I use as my Medium Term planning.

I email that to the parents for them to comment and they stick it at the front of their book. I also did a follow up report for when the LO left and will do them every 6 months in future.

Does that help any? It isn't any longer than 2 sides of A4 (with spaces between paragraphs and next steps etc) so not that time consuming...

HSMM · 27/01/2010 08:52

I don't do it because of EYFS, I have always done it. I think as long as you have some way of assessing children's progress then you are OK. I find mine handy to pass on to pre school/school and they get more feedback from parents than anything else I do. I quite agree that they should NOT be done in a tick list kind of way, because all children are different.

leeloo1 · 27/01/2010 14:39

HSMM Should have said, I was newly registered (was post-EYFS, so haven't worked as a CM under the old system) and trying to get my head round how to do all the paperwork - and this seemed like the best solution. You were obviously ahead of the game with your record keeping.

I'd agree though that they (or 'my baby's 1st school report!' as one parent put it) get good feedback from the parents and are a really lovely record for the children/family/future provision. I was actually thinking of doing one for my own DS because its nice to take the time to reflect on all the things little ones have achieved.

HSMM · 27/01/2010 15:27

leeloo1 - please do one for your DS, because I really regret that I have so many records for other children's progress over the years and none for my DD

Katymac · 27/01/2010 15:57

Did I hear my name being taken in vain?

BoffinMum · 28/01/2010 16:39

I know you'll all most likely very diligent and committed, but a question - what's to stop people making up fictitious achievements for the purposes of getting through an inspection?

BoysAreLikeDogs · 28/01/2010 20:56

Well yes, that is a good q BoffinMum

By cross referencing, by having evidence such as work produced or photos to back up the assessments.

The Self Evaluation Form (a monstrous document I might add) completed by CMs each year is also used as an inspection tool, and you must also have a raft of evi to back up the assertions made in it.

I do know one CM who frankly made up a load of guff and got a Good so the inspectors are not infallible.

grrrr

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HSMM · 28/01/2010 21:05

If I made up fictitious (sp?) achievements on the summative assessments, the parents would spot them a mile off .... don't care what the inspector thinks of them. The children are either achieving, or they're not. It's my job to assess that.

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