Nanny returning to work with baby

[littlelucys]

Hi, I have read lots of posts on this topic. Some of them are quite old now and I would like some up to date figures.

What would the going rate reduction be for a nanny returning to work with her baby after maternity leave. My nanny looks after my two children, one at primary school and one at nursery 5 half days per week, she still works full time hours due to us working long random hours.

Also, if anyone has gross wage amounts for full time nannys with their own baby that they would kindly post (along with the area they live) that would also be really helpful!

thanks

it varies

some nannys who go back to their job dont take a pay cut,but also dont get a pay rise - where others do

if you start a new job, then seems the going rate is 10/20% less then the going rate iyswim

so if was £10ph then be £8ph

personally I would pay a returning nanny the same rate - assuming she still has the same duties and fulfils them in the same way.

I would deduct something, prob 10-20% to cover practicalities. I dont think my own baby would 'suffer', in fact it would be beneficial, but i would do a small deduction to cover emergency back up etc.

I think many nannies go back to same job with own child at same rate but no reason why you should and perhaps a revised contract is needed anyhow as you need to include in it what happens in the eventuality that her child is sick etc who provides what for her child whilst she is working and within this review of contract I think you would then be able to review the pay to say 15% less than she was paid before she brought baby to work.

I know some people say she has the same duties but should not to be able to complete some duties such as changing childrens beds that week because her baby had a really grouchy grumpy week (say baby was teething) and needed lots of attention obv you would understand that but why should you pay the same as a nanny who doesnt bring own baby to work and therefore doesnt have the distraction of their own baby.

Speaking from my own personal experience a nanny returning with her own baby will not be able to perform the same duties as she did before - it's just not possible.

I would say it depends on how much you were paying her pre-baby and what your expectations were/are. If you were paying at the lower end of the spectrum, you might be happy to keep her on the same wage (but with no pay rises for a while). But if you were paying her a relatively high salary, I would seriously consider a 20% pay cut.

1 would personally negotiate 15-20% but keep aside all the money saved, and pay it as a discretionary qtrly bonus, based on performance/attendance.

As the job isn't the same one, produce a new contract which sets out the new agreed terms. Note on the contract that it is a new contract due to change of circumstances and note the original contract start date... so it shows the period of continuous employment, which may be subsequently used for things like Redundancy Pay calculations.

No idea on wage, but as others have said it varies... some employers will reduce the salary, others won't. Up to you to come to an agreement with your nanny. It isn't the same job they are returning to, as they are bringing their child, so they are not entitled to return to the job bringing their child - only entitled to return if not bringing their child.

I would certainly deduct more than 20%. It is was a share with another family you would probably pay about 55% - 60% of the going rate, giving the nanny a 10%-20% raise to compensate for the extra aggro of having two employers who live in two separate houses. So, why if the child belongs to the nanny would you then want to pay 80%-90% of the salary. Surely that not worth the hassle to the employer.

I would think 30%-40% pay cut is reasonable. I would also check that the amount of money being cut from her previous wage is still less than the going rate of childcare so that she is still financially better off bringing than baby that she would be leaving her own child in someone else's care.

The arrangement needs to be beneficial to everyone. And 10-20% wouldn't be enough for me.

40% seems a lot to deduct - tbh i couldnt afford to go down to £65ish a day

How much could you afford to pay for childcare if I said you couldn't bring the baby?

But Blondes, if you were in any career other than nannying, you wouldn't have a choice of whether to reduce your pay by that amount or not, you would have to pay the going rate at nursery, childminder whatever - and in many cases that would equate to more than 40% of gross salary. Not saying that I think a nanny's pay should necessarily be reduced by 40%, having never had a nanny with her own child, but I think it's a point worth making.

Come to think of it, when my first child was born, about 65% of my income went to the childcare... leaving me with 35%

Jeez, some things are better not remembered.

good point strix - erm - free childcare would be great

the nursery my friend uses is £35 a day - which i told her was very cheap childcare - so that would leave me with £75 a day

but i would hopefully claim/use child care vouchers as well .....

i know what you are saying and yes nannies are very lucky to be able to take their own child, but i just couldnt afford to live off 60% of my salary

thanks for all the comments - good thinking points!