Is it me,or the competition is really tight for nannies in London?nannies&even parents please help

[NannyNorthLlondon]

I am looking for a nanny position since november,I tried agencies aswell,I have been for a few interviews,but no answer..
I have 3 years exp as live-in nanny+some volunteer in Eu,Icp and first aid...the crb is in progress.I am starting to get worried little bit,maybe I am doing something wrong at the interviews or my qualifications are not enough,I really dont know,because I have excellent references,and the 2 families I worked for have been really pleased with me,and we still keep in contact,but they dont need me anymore.
Nannies who have more experience and parents..what should I do?some advice please.
Thank you

That mother was well out of line, actually. I have drilled into my kids that weekends are hers and they are not allowed to so much as breathe on her door.

I think you might be well suited to put something into your ad about being able to tutor a bit of math. If you can math fun for Key stage 1 I think you could well offer to replace the Kumon bill.

I am of course assuming that accountancy degree = good at and like math.

Strix of course you have to be good at math to study accountancy .I am actually good at plenty things and even if I am not I try to be

Mothers helps earn £350 a week now?

Bloody hell where were all these jobs when I started?! My perm job before last I was on £1500 a month as a FT sole charge nanny which is about £350 a week, no? (Not very good at maths) I wouldn't have expected much more than that in my next job had it not been drastically different.

A drivers license I think would help more than a diploma in childcare. I nannied before I was qualified and whilst a qualification has been a plus, driving was much more important.

frankkina most mothers help vacancies i`ve seen are paid between 7-9£/h net.So if you do 50h/week with the 7£/h equals 350£

That's gone up about £100 in 3 years....

wails quietly in the corner

I knew I was born too early!

blimey - i nearly took a live-in nanny job recently that paid £300 net per week and I'm 32, 13yrs experience. Thought that was on the lower end of normal?

[hug] it is good that I was born later then, so now I take all the benefits

mothers helps get/ask £7/9nett - thought that was what nannies got?

I thought a mother's help was an entry level live-out minimum wage sort of job. Let's see, £7 per hour, 10 hours a day, 5 days a week is... £350... I hope we are talking gross. £18,200 per year seems like a pretty good deal for a young person just starting out. Someone remind me what teachers make... and what about nurses...

Stop crying, everyone.

Round here mother's helps get around £100-£200 a week. There is absolutely no way anyone I know would pay someone £350 net for a mother's help job. It works out at £23600 gross.

As a guide live-out nannies with NNEB/DCE Level 3 experience 10 years+ experience around here are earning between £300-£350 depending on hours and the number and age of children being cared for.

With respect I think you are at best a bit misguided in your salary expectations. FWIW teachers start on £21102 after doing a degree and one year's postgraduate study, a junior doctor starts on £22190 after six years' study, and a nurse or midwife starts on £20710.

thank god for that boffy (prods, did you want the turkey email as you liked the garlic one lol?)

i assume mothers helps would be on min wage tbh so 5.83gross ah hour,which is 58 ish a day,so just under 300 a week gross

London wages do seem like another world at times... I'm only 22miles ish from central London.
Live out, experienced nannies in my area are on around £90-£120 gross per day.

I think the London thing has got a bit out of hand, actually. Other worldly, like you say.

I should say for the purposes of fairness that obviously teachers, doctors and nurses have more distance to travel in terms of salary and nannies have a lower ceiling. But then again, teachers, doctors and nurses have more complicated jobs in much more complex organisations, and have made more time and financial investment in high level training, etc.

£20896 firefighter
£19683 paramedic
£21534 police

All above basic starting salaries

I don't actually see how a mother's help can justify earning more than a paramedic really, tbh.

do those professions only work an average of 40hrs a week though?

compared to average nannies who do 50/60/65 a week?

but yes i do think nurses etc get shit money for what they do

I didnt mean to cause such a big controversy.That is the offer that the market in London has.What should I do now, say that is unfear and I want minimum wage?I think is worth investigating properly before jumping at me, because I never talk without knowing.I registered with 5 agencies, all off them quite succesfull and none off them told me that the rate pay is lower than 7£ net per h(live' out) for someone like me.Plus on gumtree and other jobsites the same story.I am checking gumtree since 3 months , every day.If Iam lying , sorry but I was told lies aswell.

No-ones saying you're lying rather than wages seem to be a) inflated in London, b) on a par with a nanny wage, c) more than entry level (which MH jobs often are) for several professions which involve significant study and/or high risk and might I add d) plumped up by agencies who are often on a percentage commission.

My best friend, google, informs me that London MHs are getting £200-250net as standard when live in and the live out ones tend not to be full time in which case a slightly higher hourly salary (around £6-8 per hour seems to be normal) makes sense. Lots of 2 or 3 day jobs or afternoons only.

Top Notch are quoting £200-300 depending on live in or out for full time and it would seem none of my favourite agencies place mother's helps!

NNL, agencies can tell you whatever they like but the fact remains that none of them have found you a job! One of the reasons may well be that they are pricing you too highly. At the end of the day, it doesn't matter how wonderful you are or how much a family might like to employ you, if they can't afford you then they won't employ you.

I liken it to my current search for an admin assistant at work. From the applications, I can see that the two best applicants are currently earning more than the salary range the company can afford. It doesn't matter how much I want them, there is no money to pay them. I can either hope they will accept less money or compromise on another candidate - the latter being more likely. For MH-type positions, the range which a family can afford is likely to be even more firmly fixed then for a nanny.

Is now a good time to point why agencecies should not be trusted? NNL, I do now wonder if you might be pricing yourself out of the market as a result of being misled by deceitful agencies. I know I know, deceitful agencies is redundant.

"Look at this page"
This position doesnt require any qualification , just 2 years exp.Have a look at the pay.
"or this page" wich I cannot apply for,beacuse I dont have baby exp.

I realise agencies are useless , thats why I am searching on my own.They are probably right about the CRB because they have a policy to respect but I will not let my life in their hands never ever

this one is more like housekeeping and live in,for this one they pay 5£/h net.
"this page" but I repeat is live-in

It looks like it depends on how much the parent needs you to be involve with the children.For pure housekeeping its normal that they pay less and I dont need experience in housekeeping