Another nanny pay rise question

[Feelingoptimistic]

I have a great nanny, who worked for me before having her own baby, and now brings baby with her. This morning she asked for a small pay rise to compensate her for increased cost of living. I can understand her point of view, but I did not get a pay rise last year, and I don't think I will this year. Also, she gets the same amount now as she did before she had a baby. I guess I am also thinking that if she had to find another job, there would be a discount applied to take account of the fact that she brings her baby with her. We never discussed this issue before, and perhaps she has not thought about the fact that by brining her own baby with her (and hence not having to pay any child care costs) she is in fact saving money.

What do you think?

I am not a nanny but I think she is being really quite cheeky.

If I were employing a nanny I would expect to pay quite a bit less if they were bring their own young baby with them, as surely my child would be getting alot less of their attention as she is looking after her baby whilst she is looking after my child too.

So therefore, she should feel happy that she is able to bring her child to work, spend less time looking after your kids because she now cares for her baby whilst at work and still gets the same pay. PLUs she doesn't have to fork out for childcare.

I'd say no, based on the baby thing.

i would say no as well as brings her own baby

you are paying her the same wage (which is very fair)

often nannys who accept jobs with their own child take 10/20% less as it is a perk and obv doesnt have to pay for own childcare

i would simply say that you arent going to give her a payrise as she is bringing her baby to work for same wage as when she didnt have her own baby

Agree with others suspect as you say she may not have thought of it. What is obvious to one is not always to others, as I have learnt along the way!

Thanks Hando and Blondes. I am going to have to have a friendly chat to her about it...

thanks K75

Tell her that absolutely you will offer her a payrise of say 5% due to rising costs but you will need to deduct 20% due to costs of her bringing her baby.

What everyone else said. Of course ideally you'd have discussed this when she was comng back but given that she'd probably be looking at a 20% drop if she got another job I'd be expecting to hold her wages where they are for a few years.

I agree with what everyone else had said, but over an above that, I was thinking about this in another way.... I had a baby last year (I am not a nanny) but no one gave me a pay rise because my living costs had gone up! In the current environment, I think she is being very cheeky!

Update - so I had a chat with her tonight. I really did not want to jeopardise our relationship (and I am weak !) to I told her that I would give her a £5 per week increase (net) - it's just nominal but would compensate her for the increase in her bus fares to get to my place. I explained why.
I think she is kind of ok with it, but I could tell she was disappointed.

has her bus fare gone up then?

tough, so has petrol/road tax/mortgage rates etc and i wouldnt ask my mb for a payrise to cover that

i understand you want to be nice (and you sound a fab,caring mb) but basically you gave in and nanny got a payrise

I think bringing your own baby warrants more like a 40% deduction. It is a nanny share after all. I can see that since she was already your nanny you are just carrying on with what you already paid her. But, has she considered the wear and tear that her baby's presense bring to your home?

I think you did the wrong thing. I know you want to be nice but actually you have let your nanny get away with taking the piss. You said she was disappointed well now you have an unsatisfied nanny. Maybe if you had of been harsher and pointed out that she brought her own baby at the same rate of pay unlike others then she might of been a little more appreciative. She hasn't understood that she is already getting a good deal and now just thinks your payrise is not enough.

I hope things work out but it doesn't look good if she is not appreciating what she has now.

I am a nanny and i can tell you taking your own child to work is not a fun experience and they get left to fend for themselves alot while you look after your charge . I dont think she is taking the piss as some put it ,she is doing her JOB and needs to be paid acceptable wages some people seem to think nannies work should work for less than they pay their cleaners . I also think if you were unhappy about paying the same wages now she brings her baby you should have said something beforhand.

There choice though dooodle, and I think the perks of bringing her own baby far out way the less time for their own baby.

I think you were wrong to give in, who else gets a payrise because the cost of living has gone up?

Their, of course. I changed my mind about what I was going to type .

doodle - when you mention about nanny pay and cleaner pay, don't forget that for the nanny to be a cleaner she would need to pay for childcare. If a nanny is paid £8 ph without a child in tow and £6ph with, she is still quids in as in an area where nanny is on £8ph it is likely that childminder costs would be upwards of £4ph.