what's changed re nannys in the last 6 years

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Hi,

Am hoping to get a job soon and will need a nanny in london if all goes well. She will need to do 2 full days per week (8am-6pm) and 3 afternoons (3-6) (regular weekly schedule).

Last time we had a nanny 6 yrs ago there seemed to be 2 very common things re payment:

1. pay was always quoted net not gross and
2. we seemed to be the only people actually paying taxes.

Has any of this changed in the last years? I'm happy to pay the taxes, but last time I honestly felt like a mug as it seemed to be so common to not do so. Also what do you figure would be a good rate? (DCs are 4 and 6)
Thanks!

Many more nannies I feel are now aware of what employment rights they have, how they should be paid. Parents are also increasingly using schemes like Childcare Vouchers to part-pay the cost, so in England some 6000+ nannies are now Ofsted Registered and parents in Scotland are using agencies (as in Scotland it is the agency that is registered, not the nanny).

Here on Mumsnet, I and others are encouraging parents and nannies to use Gross Pay when negotiating salaries, to make Nannying more professional plus to make it easier for nanny employers to understand how much it will cost them to employ a nanny.

Live-out nannies in London seem to be able to get £10-£15 gross per hour, depending on experience. Look on websites like www.NannyJob.co.uk to see nanny job ads in your area, see what others are offering. Not sure who your job would appeal to, given 2 full days plus 3 lots of 3 hours. You may find it would suit a nanny who brings their own child - so think about how that may work, say if the nanny had a toddler.

NannyNick is right (as always) I think.
Are you looking for live-in or live-out?

i used net with our nanny as eveyrone seemed to advertise net wages (and prospective nannies quoted previous wages in net terms). looking back i wish i'd said gross as it would've been easier to work out every time tax rates changed which they did about three times in the last two years.
as for taxes - dunno if everybody pays them but i certainly did, and most good nannies would expect you to do so. apart from the legal consequences for you (fines etc) it is unfair on the nanny (she doesnt have a legal income to declare for example if getting a mortgage). and it doesn't make sense to me to leave the person looking after the people you love most in the world feeling aggrieved at you.
in london a good experienced nanny usually expects £9-10 an hour net (about 40pc on top is rough calc for gross wage so about £13ish).
btw where in london are you? we just had to make our utterly, utterly brilliant nanny redundant (moving out of london) and i think she is still looking for new family (she would need to be in s london)