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Paid childcare

Discuss everything related to paid childcare here, including childminders, nannies, nurseries and au pairs.

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Are you giving your nanny a pay rise next year?

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greybird · 04/12/2009 17:11

Pay review is due in Jan. I work for a large company, DH for a small company, both have just announced 0% payrise for 2010. Inflation is currently 1.5%. So, are you offering a payrise? (Hope I don't get slated by the nannies here for even asking... )

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nbee84 · 04/12/2009 18:43

The pay rise I got this year was the same as my mb got - 3%. So going by that you would be giving her 0%. Have a chat with her and explain how things are, she should surely understand. Even nannies read the papers and know there is a credit crunch

gizzy1973 · 04/12/2009 20:40

what is in your nanny's contract? does it say you have to give one

Northernlurker · 04/12/2009 20:58

I expect you are within your rights not to give one but your nanny will also be within her rights to give notice if she finds it uneconomic to work for you. That's your risk. Could you offer more paid holiday or something in lieu of an actual raise?

K75 · 04/12/2009 22:09

Also about 3%; mine knows I look at the market; ask colleagues etc.; check in with agencies on current rates and try and give her what we can. Is not extravagent but shows we care. We can also afford it (both will get over 10%).

We gave this amount last year.

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greybird · 05/12/2009 09:08

Thanks. I am aware of her rights, the risks and of the market conditions. I haven't ruled out a pay rise. Guess am just interested what decisions other employers are coming to.

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Earthstar · 05/12/2009 09:13

It wouldn't be very motivating or morale boosting if you got a zero percent rise

AtheneNoctua · 05/12/2009 09:29

I always try to treat my nanny as my employer treats me. So if I got 0% she would probably get the sam. But, since I typically hire nannies for about a year on a gap year or while they come over from the EU to brush up on their English, the annual pay rise doesn't really come into it because they are only hear for a year.

If I can afford to channel a bit amore into her Christmas present, I'll give her a bit more that way.

And I would never ever write a contract that tied me to a raise I might not be able to afford.

AtheneNoctua · 05/12/2009 09:30

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Tavvy · 05/12/2009 10:00

From a nannies perspective whilst I would love a payrise I don't believe it's an automatic given nor should it be. If your nanny has performed well in her role then it is probably appropriate but I think if I were employing somebody I was balk at giving a payrise for substandard service.
There is a fine line between what families can afford to give and what nannies expect. I don't think I would leave a position over not getting a payrise but I think I would be interested to know why as I would be inclined to take it as a personal comment on my work. It's a tricky one

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greybird · 05/12/2009 10:10

In the corporate world that I'm used to, you get two types of payrises: one which is basically automatic and generally inflation-linked at a set time of the year, and another which is performance linked (may be the same as a promotion but might not be). I think the two are mixed into one for many nannies, including mine. It makes it less straightforward than just giving them the same (ie 0%) that I got.

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Earthstar · 05/12/2009 12:28

If you are unable to afford a raise for your nanny I would explain that and ask her if there could be changes made to terms and conditions or benefits instead that would be good from her pov

TwoCupcakes · 06/12/2009 14:37

My nanny has only been with us for a few weeks so a pay rise wouldnt be in the picture that soon. however, like most others my rule is - if i'm on 0%, then the nanny by default would be on 0% (assuming she is currently working at a competitive rate). however, i would have explained the situation to nanny and have a discussion around other ways to keep her motivated. the last thing i want is for her to feel that she wasn't getting a pay rise because of her performance. would try and find some other ways to keep her her happy and motivated (some nice presents at other times?) with a view that hopefully if i got a payrise the next round, she would as well either.

bottom line - we can only pay what we can afford and hopefully the nanny understands the situation and realise you are not trying to be stingy.

magicofchristmas · 07/12/2009 17:20

I have had bonus and pay rise in the past.

The way things are at the moment neither of my bosses have had pay increases or bonuses in the past few years (they tell me these things). They did however give me a small cash bonus to "buy something nice.

To me the most important thing was that they mentioned to me their own situation rather than just ignore it, otherwise your nanny may wonder if they have done something wrong.

They still didn't need to give me anything and I told them the fact I was in a job I truly loved was more than enough for me (have put up with too much C**P over the years.

fridayschild · 07/12/2009 17:26

DH and I both got pay cuts this year. I am confident I will get another pay cut before Christmas, ho ho ho. Our nanny has a pay review in November and we have told her due to the pay cuts her pay is being frozen. She wasn't exactly over the moon but seemed to understand the situation we are in.

I agree with magicofchristmas on the importance of communication.

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greybird · 09/12/2009 13:22

Thanks everyone.
I do like her and I can afford to pay more, but there is a limit to what I want to pay. I've given her 8 weeks paid holiday and a £200 bonus this year.
I'm going to wait for the new inflation figures to be announced next week. My employers are claiming that inflation is -1.5% thus 0% is actually a payrise. Very amusing.

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