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Paid childcare

Discuss everything related to paid childcare here, including childminders, nannies, nurseries and au pairs.

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Would anyone nanny for this amount per hour?

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liznay · 26/11/2009 14:26

I am looking at childcare arrangements for my 1 year old daughter - she is due to start nursery in January but am wondering if a nanny would suit us better? However it seems that the average nanny around these parts (NW Surrey) is wanting about £10 per hour.
I would be open to having a nanny with her own child but would anyone be prepared to work for £7 per hour Gross or possibly £8 gross if they were ofsted registered (we could then use childcare vouchers) Am I living in cloud cuckoo land? MIL has offered to do it for £8.50 cash in hand but this is way more than the nursery and she obviously can't accept the vouchers....

We would only really need someone 8.30 till 4.30pm 3 days a week so would actually be quite nice hours for a working mum.
I've spoken to a nanny with her own child and she would want in the region of £10p/h Gross which we just can't afford. Is this typical?

ahh the quandry of childcare...

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FabIsVeryLucky · 26/11/2009 14:28

I am a bit at your MIL wanting paying, and that much to have her grandchild.

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liznay · 26/11/2009 14:39

Fab - Don't think its a greed thing, it's just that she would have to give up her job to come and do it and they need the money. My own mum has said she would do it for £30 a day but she lives miles away so that's a no go.

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Blondeshavemorefun · 26/11/2009 15:36

8gross is quite low but hopefully you could find a nanny with own child

have you looked at ads/advertised on netmums/nannyjob?

bibbitybobbityhat · 26/11/2009 15:38

What about a childminder?

I don't think you can afford a Nanny.

Oblomov · 26/11/2009 16:08

childminder? I am in surrey. cm round here are £4 or £5 per hour. thats on the official website. is that no good for you ?

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liznay · 26/11/2009 18:16

Oblo - My OH is not keen on a CM and to be honest it doesn't really offer us anything that the nursery wouldn't. Just liked the idea of DD being looked after in our own home. Ah well I guess its the nursery or nothing then...

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frakkinaround · 26/11/2009 18:22

You could get a v newly qualified nanny for that. Or an unqualified ex au-pair type but it's not great hours for a single job.

Nanny share?

bibbitybobbityhat · 26/11/2009 19:40

Childminder much better for a 1 year old than nursery imvho.

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liznay · 26/11/2009 19:46

Bibbity - I agree with you, but OH VERY overprotective, thinks the worst about people and likes the security of the nursery with its cctv etc.

Thanks for everyones' replies so far

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nannyl · 26/11/2009 20:09

tbh if you are over protective i would suggest that 95% of childminders are better than 95% of nurserys...

nappyaddict · 26/11/2009 21:56

I know 3 nannies and they each get £6, £6.50 and £6.75 per hour net. Not sure what that works out at as gross.

Maria2007loveshersleep · 26/11/2009 22:45

Yes I agree its unrealistic, 8£ per hour gross is quite low for a qualified ofsted registered nanny. I'm not sure whether you could find someone who would be willing to get paid that money cash in hand though, perhaps you could if it's someone inexperienced, but IMO don't go down the cash in hand route, not for a nanny who'll be working long hours for you. 8£ net per hour comes to about 10£ gross per hour (at least I think so).

frakkinaround · 26/11/2009 22:58

If your OH is that overprotective then you want a nursery or a childminder because, fab as nannies are, there are no guarantees other than the checks you make yourself, there is no 'regulatory body', you don't know what your nanny is doing during the day etc. For the money you're offering you won't get a good, experienced, trustworthy nanny. Nannies accepting that kind of money would need a reason such as super-high unemployment (which the average rate doesn't suggest), bad relationship with previous family (which means you wouldn't want them anyway), suspicious motive for being with your daughter etc...

Or you may get lucky and have a one in a hundred nanny with own child who doesn't need to work full time, will take a paycut and be happy with what you're offering.

I don't think your OH will be able to trust a nanny and let go.

If you're really concerned you could ask a childminder to have a webcam on so you can follow your DDs progress but in this case it sounds like you'd be happier with a nursery.

nappyaddict · 26/11/2009 23:03

Just asked two others I know what they get paid. One gets £6.88 gross, the other gets £5.50 net.

nannyl · 27/11/2009 09:29

i dont know any nannies who get less than £7 net (I dont think)...
I get around £8.50 net (but think i am too cheap!)

agree with others that a nanny with own child who just wants to work a few hours may be a realistic solution, or sharing a nanny.

Blondeshavemorefun · 27/11/2009 11:50

nappyaddict -where are you? thats seems very low

average wage near me is £7/8nett though i earn £10nett

nappyaddict · 27/11/2009 12:27

I am in West Midlands

frakkinaround · 27/11/2009 13:50

I used to get about £1/hour more in the Home Counties than I did in Birmingham and I wasn't particularly experienced back then.

eastmidlandsnightnanny · 03/12/2009 16:43

£7-£8 an hr gross is fine for a new nanny maybe someone who has a yr or 2 in a nursery looking for first nanny job if you paid for ofsted registration.

also salary is fine for a nanny with own child with a few yrs nanny experience.

Its def an employers market and if you offer to pay for ofsted registration (maybe put into contract that the ofsted fee will be taken from final pay if leaves within 6mths or 50% of it of something like that just to cover you)

I currently charge £12 an hr for ad hoc nanny work in the east midlands but going rate here is around £8 gross an hr for an experienced nanny without own children and is around 25% less for those with child or those with little or no nanny experience but have nursery experience.

SeaGreen · 08/01/2010 16:58

this may sound stupid but isn't i possible to get paid from your employer in cash rather than childcare vouchers, and pay your MIL?
(you can tell I have no kids yet, sorry if this sounds really silly)

Hando · 08/01/2010 17:06

Most employers will not pay cash in hand - as it's illegal if you don't want to pay tax credits.

My dd went to a nursery as a baby and will now be with a childminder after school. I am very overprotective and surely it adds up that if you want "cctv" etc then a nanny is the least "trackable". A CM has other kids there usually, other parents dropping and collecting at various times. A nanny is in your home with just your children, possibley her own.

Hando · 08/01/2010 17:08

Why did I write "tax credits". I meant illegal if you are not paying tax. I was also going to say you could claim tax credits or your MIL could become a registered childminder, but she'd have to take on at least one other non family child to be able to qualify you to use your voucher/tax credits to pay her.

frakkinaround · 08/01/2010 17:09

The vouchers are part of a salary sacrifice scheme. Paying CIH usually involves avoiding paying tax and NI but the OP would still pay it on her earnings. The vouchers are taken from the pre-tax income so you 'save', or rather get more for your money.

Plus paying just cash is illegal.

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