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celebmum · 09/11/2009 15:07

hi mums.. i'm new to mumsnet, just joined! i'm currently pregnant (today i'm at home taking a rare day off due to hyperemesis.. boo!)
anyways i'm due in april next yr and so is a good friend of mine, we both work full time and both intend on returning to work part time after our bumps are born, when discussing this we discussed the possibility of minding each others babies, therefore savings us money, enabling us both to return to work and giving us reassurance that our babies were in good hands etc.. however i wondered if this was ok? is it 'allowed' i'm not really upto date on these things, should we be registered etc? we are not intending to pay each other, so do we need to declare anything etc?
might be silly questions i know but worth checking out! thanks in advance..

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nannynick · 09/11/2009 15:59

Welcome to Mumsnet. As you are new, I will excuse you for not putting a better title to your message Little tip: Message title is very important if you want your message to be read by lots of people. Try to make it as descriptive as possible

As you may have read in the news recently, the issue of caring for a child at your home for periods exceeding 2 hours a day, falls under the Childcare Act 2006.

There are however some workarounds.
The easiest of which is that you care for the child in the child's own home. So you would care for your child and your friends child in your friends home... and your friend would care for your her child, plus your child, in your home. Then you are both Nannies - which currently is not regulated.

In England, Ofsted have been told to overlook arrangements between families... but I'm not sure in reality if they will actually do so. The law is quite clear, so until that law is changed, Ofsted will retain the right to request that an unregistered childminder registers if they are found to be caring for a unrelated child in excess of 2 hours in any day (for more than 14 days a year).

we are not intending to pay each other, so do we need to declare anything etc?

Legally the law does not appear to me to define Reward. It is left up to a Tribunal / Court to define that on a per-case basis. So the fact that you are not paying each other doesn't really matter that much, as the Reward could be seen as the childcare itself, or any thing you may give to each other.

So lets look at you being nanny for the other family. Technically a nanny should be paid National Minimum Wage. But if neither of you pay each other, if neither of you register as an employer, then who's to know? You could both be a nanny on a voluntary basis.

Hope that is of some help.

xoxcherylxox · 09/11/2009 19:40

did they not kinda of change this a bit or have they still do to that i thought they did change the defination of reward so that it didnt include childcare in return or is that just my imagination. i also thought that ofsted were advised to over look this sort of arrangement with friends not just family as that was already allowed.

PenguinVic · 16/12/2009 20:05

I currently work in a London Children's Centre and was informed by our Parent Outreach Worker that unrelated individuals can now care for each other's children, without having to register as childminders, as long as no money changes hands. So, if your friend is mutually agreeable to this arrangement good luck to you both. I wish it had been available when I returned to work.

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