difference between nanny and childminder

[homicidalmummymaniac]

I know that childminders are self employed and nannys are not but what exactly is the difference in terms of training/qualifications/requirements by ofsted/care commission etc?

Many thanks in advance!

I'll start a list - I'm sure I will have missed things - please anyone add anything you can think of

Nanny

Your employee
May or may not hold insurance/qualifications
Works at your house
May or may not be eligible for Tax credit help/childcare vouchers
Works for 1 or 2 families
Works to your terms & conditions

Childminder

Self employed
Holds insurance
Trained to a minimum standard (set by OFSTED/DCSF)
Works at her home
Eligible for Tax credit help/childcare vouchers
Provides a service to several/many families
Sets her own terms & conditions
Required to administer EYFS
Required to keep records
Required to risk assess daily
Most councils require Food Hygiene
Required to be first Aid trained by legislation
Gov intending for all CMers to be level 3 qual at some point in the future

Katymac's list is good.

Nannies may or may not have First Aid training.

The key difference between a nanny and a childminder is their PLACE of work - a nanny works in the child's own home, whereas a child goes to a childminders home.

Why do you want to know? May help knowing that to be of more assistance, as if necessary can direct you then to registration requirements lists, for example.

good list katymac and nick other key difference is that nannys are employed and cm self employed

nannies charge per hour/day/family and will look after ill children

cm charge per child and wont look after ill children so backup childcare may be needed

so if 2+children often a nanny may be cheaper than a cm

also
a nanny will normally do the childrens washing and ironing, will keep the childrens bedroom / playroom AT HOME tidy and is likely to cook food and freeze some so parents have stocks at the weekend etc.
A nanny might also do shopping / pick you up some bread / take your clothes to the dry cleaners and wait in for a plumber / delivery etc at your house whereas a childminder only looks after and prepares food for the children during the hours they are there

Not ironing! I'm terrible at ironing... plus it's dangerous to do around small children.

most nannies i know do childrens ironing.

I do it when they are asleep when they are little, and when they are older they are fine amusing themselves for 20mins while i iron in the laundry room and can keep and ear out for them

agree with nick - def no ironing done by me

have a lovely lady who comes and irons weekly or i drop it off at ironing shop

but the average nanny does iron

and some other things I have done while nannying, though i dont think these are conventional nanny duties but a M wouldnt have done them

walk dogs
clean up dog poo / sick
take dog to vets / doggy hair dresser
help move house (pack and unpack)
carry heavy things up the stairs
be an extra pair of hands to DB who while doing DIY needed to be passed a screw driver or whatever
hold ladder while DB goes up it
move stuff t other freezer when freezer broke, and quickly take some food to MY freezer
take bosses to /from garage to collect cars that are being fixed etc
help ill parents
help assemble / hold Xmas tree etc
leiase with the builders
be an extra pair of hands at family parties
HOUSE sit while bosses are away
water flowers so they dont die
collect all the leaves in the garden
put out the rubbish bins
pay the cleaner / gardener
take washing to MY house when their washing machine broke

im sure i could go on and on!

Iron! As soon as a family mention iron - i switch off!

I iron my charges clothes! Not that difficult to do it safely.

We always end up with some of us saying we do ironing and some of us saying we don't. Thus why its important for parents who are looking to employ a nanny to clearly state housework duties.

My MB said only this last week that she had seen a young child with an injury caused by an iron. Some parents will not want to take the risk... some nannies will not want to take the risk either. If a child was injured by an iron which the nanny had left unattended - who would be at fault? The nanny I suspect... could result in them never working again. Like anything we do there are risks involved and it needs to be considered on an individual basis. You wouldn't expect a childminder to be doing their ironing whilst working... so don't expect a nanny to either.

I iron! I quite like ironing children's clothes, I don't do parents ironing unless it's something easy (definately not work shirts or bedding!) and I don't iron much of my own stuff! I generally look after babies so iron when they are asleep during the day.Or when they are at nursery when they are older. All the babies I have looked after have been good sleepers and still have a nap when they were 3 years old.

I have in the course of 23 years as a nanny

Dog/rabbit/house say whilst employers away.
Chase above rabbits around a 2 acre garden for hours on end when the buggers have dug out of cage.
Stayed overnight and babysat at short notice.
Helped carpenter replace marble worktops when the silly sod turned up on his own!
Repaired countless toys and changed so many batteries.
Fixed the central heating in my last bosses new home because the heating was on constantly and they were foing through 1000 liters of oil a month and at a £1 a liter was expensive. They could not work out how to change the timers, was quite complicated!
Fixed the boiler at above home, numerous times when the shut out light came on, I showed them time and again how to do it, had a phone call 2 weeks after I had left to ask how to fix it. (Am waiting for the phone call on how to put the heating on longer soon!)
Cooked meals for various parents for the evenings.
Taken bosses and charges to airports/train stations/ferry ports on and off duty.
Taken cars in for services (usually when bosses and charges on holiday)
Taken/picked up dry cleaning.
Sanded and varnished work surface and table!

Loads more but too tired to think. Looking after 7 year old twins at the moment and remembering why I generally do babies!!!

Dog/rabbit/house SAT!