So, my neighbour, a childmidner.

[Saltire]

You may remember some of the horror tales I have told about her - well a while ago I reported(anonymously) her for leaving under 5s in the house unattended while she was in the garden, leaving them with a friend and for never ever taking them out.
I don't know what the outcome was but she has "decided" to stop minding under 5s.

Today,I heard something which has really upset me, but I'm not sure what OFSTED would say if I report her AGAIN, I ahve a feeling I won't have been the only one to hear this and be shocked by it.
7.15 am I heard what I can only describe as screeching. I was in the garden and she was in her house, all windows and doors wide open.
For the sake of this sstory I shall call the mindee BIll .
"Bill you are being really horrible today, what is your problem are you jealous because it's X(her son) birthday and he got presents? is that it, well let me tell you now you are not spoling his birhtday do you hear me, if this carries on you are going into the garden and you can stay out there all morning till school time.........did you just try to kick me? DID YOU?ANSWER ME> Well you deserve to be kicked back and if I do kick you back it will be your own fault, and if you tell your parents I shall deny it...what, don't you swear at me" followed by me hearing teh child say "I didn't swear" Then she starte dagain "well it's swearing in ym house,a dn if my children said that to me I would smack them, is that what you want me to do, smack you becasue you really are a nasty horrible child and if I did smakc you it would be your own fault for being a jealous horrible little boy and stop whining at me, I don't want to listen anymore LALALAL I HAVE MY HANBDS OVER MY EARS. I@M NOT LISTENING TO YOU,lalalalalala come on everyone let's cover our ears and sing really loudly so we can't hear slefish BIll moaning" and then I heard lots of voices singing alalalalalalalala.
Now I thought that childmidners do not bully, humiliate or intimidate mindees? Thats word for word what I heard this morning. There is a lot of animosity between us and I'm really surprised she hasn't twigged that I reported her last time

Bloody hell. I hope you called OFSTED. That is appalling behaviour!

Remember, most mobile phones have a 'voice record facility' for at least 60 minutes.
That woman should be struck off! You need to let the parents know. Go to the teacher and say that you MUST speak to Bill's mum.
I'm sure the mum will want to listen to you.
It will then be in her court.
Well done, for doing something about it, there needs to be more concerned neighbours like yourself.

I hate to be the one to say it, but it's your word against hers at the moment. Write down what happened in detail and report it, however, if they choose not to do anything about it (I hope to the gods that they do do something about it!), at least you have a detailed written record of it and can use that record should anything like this ever happen again (which it sounds like it will!)

This is shocking

Write down every instance - date and time... report her PLEASE!!!!

Tell the parent, he's old enough to give his version of events plus with your side of the story she wont be able to deny it.

Please call Ofsted and SS, children should not be subject to that kind of treatment from an adult. Parents are trusting her with their children and deserve to know whats actually going on.

Saltire did you used to be a childminder?

how horrible poor poor bill, i would ask (if he is still at school today) for a note with your phone number on to be passed to bills parents through school

How horrible. How about taking a copy of the note you have just written popping it into an envelope with another letter saying you overheard this, you found it distressing, you thought as a mum she'd want to know but you leave it up to her to decide whats best. give her your tel no if she wants to talk. label the envelope Bills mum and ask the teacher to put it in his book bag.

Saltire this woman is horrid!

Poor bill. I would contact school and ask them that they call Bill's mum for you and pass on you number. I would talk to the HT about it. I would approach this via the child and his mum first, then Ofsted. If this child knows you heard, and that he was not in the wrong, but the cm, he may then open up and tell mum what happened, backing up your account. Is she still registered then, or working unregistered and that's why in her logic that she is just taking older children so less on the radar?

I wouldn't use the note in bag as you live near this woman and she has already in the past intimadated you and your dcs.

What's happened then? I've been watching this post to find out, have you done anything yet?

Bump!

Yes please I was wondering the same thing.

and me !

What happened? If it came to her word against yours you can still have her for overminding. She's only allowed 6 children including her own (unless she has an unusual variation)

plimple - sadly the rules are that over 8s are not included in ratio.....my insurance covers me for 16 over 8s plus my normal 6 under 8 - yeah I know amazing isn't it?!!

As for OP - I'm not sure what you CAN do at this stage. Agree with the others - absolutely APPALLING behaviour - think you need to record these incidences and write down diary (same as others have said....)

Another thing that you could try is speaking to environmental health about noise complaint and then they will come and set up recording equipment for you so then its not you personally doing the recording its EH and maybe you'll feel less bad about that?....not sure how the law is with neighbours recording neighbours antics.....

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As far as Im aware, my insurance covers me for NO MORE than 10 mindies.

Sally x