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How much would it cost to get my nanny OFSTED registered?

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SouthernMeerkat · 27/04/2009 19:04

And if I pay for it, presumably I would have to put something in the contract whereby if she decided to leave within a certain period she would have to reimburse me on a sliding scale or something as I would assume it's money for old rope for the govt expensive?

And presumably it's worth getting her registered - as long as I can get my company to offer childcare vouchers?!

Thanks for any help!

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frannikin · 27/04/2009 19:28

The flat fee for registration is around £100 which needs to be renewed yearly.

There are other costs associated but ideally your nanny would meet them already - things like a paeds 1st aid certificate and insurance she should pay for. Insurance I think she must pay for. Updating a qualification to meet the standards is a tricky one - if she has a qualification which isn't listed then you should probably pay for the refresher course but that's around another £100 and in some places can be free.

You could put into the contract that she has to reimburse you but being OSTED registered doesn't benefit the nanny at all and you'll benefit by more than the cost in about 1 month of using vouchers with for her so it's a tad unfair IMO.

SouthernMeerkat · 27/04/2009 20:55

Thanks for that - I had thought it was closer to £650-£700 which is what the agency I used told me it was....so £100 is fine!

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willowthewispa · 27/04/2009 21:45

It is a bit more than £100, but nowhere near £650.

Common Core/ICP might be about £140 (if your nanny doesn't already have a qual)
First aid course around £80
CRB is £36
Registration fee is £108 if I remember correctly

Insurance is about £60 but the nanny needs to pay for that herself.

Mtorun · 27/04/2009 22:19

She doesnt need to pay for CRB if she needs to take the ICP course they do it for her and it included in the course fee.

willowthewispa · 27/04/2009 22:21

I think you have to have the CRB check done through Ofsted, even if you have a current one from elsewhere.

nannynick · 27/04/2009 23:12

Insurance with MM is now £70, but nanny pays that themselves - else the policy may be invalidated.

Ofsted do the CRB check as part of the registration process - they won't accept a check done previously (unless it was done by them in the past 3 months, but even then they may do a new check anyway). Ofsted's website is saying the fee is £103 see here and that the CRB fee is being covered currently by DCSF.

Ofsted: Guide to Registration on the Childcare Register
This should be read by the nanny prior to applying, as it details all the current requirements.

If your nanny is very young, then note that Ofsted registration is only available for those aged 18+

SouthernMeerkat · 28/04/2009 08:03

Thank you all so much for that - really helpful. I will talk to my nanny about it and go from there - seems a bit of a no-brainer (for me) taxwise.....

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Primrose8 · 28/04/2009 13:04

Does anyone know if there are tax benefits other than using the vouchers?

Blondeshavemorefun · 28/04/2009 14:52

WAVES to SM!!

you may want to check that the NNEB that your nanny and I both have is still valid

depending on who you talk to, some say that nneb is ok and others say it is as we both did it so long ago, that it isnt and a friend needed to do a common core skill refresher course

nick - any idea what the hard and fast rule is over nnebs and getting registered?

SouthernMeerkat · 28/04/2009 17:33

Hi Blondes, waves back!

Ah, that may be the issue with the NNEB - the refresher course may be the cost that the agency was talking about....

Will investigate.

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Blondeshavemorefun · 28/04/2009 18:00

helloooooooooooooo SM

my mb work doesnt use the vouchers so i am not ofsted reg as we both didnt see the point, but would be interesting to know if they accept the nneb or not, as sometimes they do and sometimes they dont

frannikin · 28/04/2009 19:08

ICP may well be free...mine was but it depends on the local authority

nannynick · 28/04/2009 19:45

Qualifications Database - you need to check the details for your relevant qualification along with the date.

Example entry:
The 1997-2000 NNEB Diploma in Nursery Nursing

Ofsted will refer to this database to determine if a qualification meets the requirements. At least that is my understanding of it. If in any doubt, do a common skills distance learning course plus a local authority child protection awareness course (often you can do this online).

Blondeshavemorefun · 28/04/2009 21:24

prob being thick here (im blonde ) but as i did the nneb years ago and passed 1991-according to your link nick - does that mesn as i did it beofre 1997 i need to do a common skill course?

feeling thick today - it keeps coming up error - sorry

nannynick · 28/04/2009 21:59

Database doesn't seem to be connecting right now. You need to find the right course title AND date - the link I gave earlier was to 1997-2000, not 1991.

Have found some direct links

NNEB pre 1997 - suspect this may be 1990-1997
NNEB 1960-1989
NNEB 1991-1995
NNEB 1992-1996 Integrated Scheme
NNEB 1993-1994 Modular Scheme
NNEB 1996-1999 Pilot Scheme

They all meet mandatory requirements but none include all areas of Common Core.

Therefore I expect Ofsted do accept it but would like you to do Common Core as well.
But getting an answer from Ofsted seems next to impossible - probably will be up to the inspector who does the inspection (if you get randomly selected for inspection).

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