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ok, nanny has done all the stuff to reg with ofsted and has the relevant stuff...BUT

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oopsagain · 24/04/2009 18:48

it will cost £108 to register.

She realsies now that it doesn't benefit her at all whilst she is being employed by us and a couple of other people...
So should we pay for her?
I suppose it will benefit us to the tune of more than £100 in the next few months.

And how does the system actually work for her?
We areregd already with a provider thru my dh's work.
we pay pre achool with it now, but will have paid up by the end of next month.

nanny will need to reg with this agency- and then is it all electronic transfer of funds into her account?
and then does her voucher account tranfer money into her bank account at her request?
or are there actrual real vouchers that she will be sent and then she cashes them somewhere?

I think she is confused so is confusing me.

Any advice greatfully reveived.

We want to amek it all work well, and have tried to sort it all out- there's just this final hurdle of her not really understanding her side of it all.

thankyou MN

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CottageChicken · 24/04/2009 18:54

Not sure how it works but everyone I've spoken to does it for their nanny - go ahead and make the jump - you will probably get some kind of break if your company offers childcare vouchers. I'm pretty sure the vouchers go into her account.

Millarkie · 24/04/2009 18:56

We paid the registration fee for our nanny when she registered (and paid for her to renew her first aid) since it benefited us greatly to be able to pay her with vouchers.
Some voucher companies use real vouchers (we had those) so nanny registers with the company and sends the vouchers in, and others (most) deal with electronic vouchers - which I know nothing of You could try posting on nannyjob.co.uk to get some nannies comments on how to work the 'redeeming the voucher' side?

Shoshe · 24/04/2009 19:02

I would think it is like paying either a CM or Nursery with vouchers, you release the money on a certain date, you get an email stating this has happened, and nanny gets one stating it has happened a few days later money transfers into nanny's bank.

As a CM much prefer getting paid by voucher it is much easier.

nbee84 · 24/04/2009 19:03

I receive vouchers (as a nanny) through care4 and accor. I was able to register myself with them on-line (though had to fax Ofsted certificate to accor)

I get an email telling me that a transfer is being made to my bank account and how much it is. It then arrives in my bank within 3 working days.

My bosses let the voucher company know when and how much to pay. Think you can set it up to pay a regular amount and on a set date as last month I got paid by DB's voucher company and 3 days later by MB's voucher company as she forgot to cancel that months money

nannyL · 24/04/2009 19:41

yes you should pay...

as you realise you benefit by over £1000 per year and nanny gets nothing.

Im paid with busy bees and it works really well.
I opted for the electronic payment... ie the miney goes from my bosses pay into THEIR busy bee account and they then transfer the money from their busy bee account into my bank account.

Another nanny friend uses busy bees and she gets a paper voucher which her boss physically gives her, and then she phones them up and busy bees transfer the money into their account then.

Normally my bosses pay me my whole salary out of their bank account and their busy bees credit builds up... then at Christmas they pay me exclusively in busy bees credits, and another month in the middle of the year they pay me partly with busy bees and partly with cash, so it feels to them like they get a free month at Xmas, and a cheep month in the summer!

so long as the money enters my account i dont care where it has come from!

nannynick · 24/04/2009 20:10

Currently it seems quite typical for employers to reimburse the fee (either via payroll or cash). In a few years time that may change as more nannies are registered and need to keep that registration current.

Once the paperwork is done, Ofsted send the nanny a certificate with their registration number. Once your nanny has their certificate, they can then register with the voucher company/companies. This process can take a while... from payment of the registration fee to being up and running may be a couple of months (could be longer if CRB check gets delayed... the more previous addresses there are, the longer it seems to take).

Your voucher provided should be able to store unused vouchers for a while - contact them to confirm that. They may want to issue you with vouchers but let you redeem them at a later date.

Electronic vouchers are the easiest. Paper vouchers are typically redeemed on-line or by phone - I redeem Accor paper vouchers on-line, then it takes a few days for payment to be issued. The amount gets transferred to the linked bank account once the voucher company has issued the payment and the banks systems clear it. So it can take a while from the paper voucher being given to the nanny, to the nanny actually having the money. So aim to give your nanny the voucher by the 20th of the month.

I've tried to put together a basic guide on the Ofsted Requirements for nannies. The Ofsted guide to Registration can be found here.

oopsagain · 24/04/2009 20:39

Thanks to you all
And hi to nannynick, again.

We only use her for 9 hrs a week so it will take a while for us to feel the benefit of registering her TBH.

And the other thing is that she is more marketeable with ofsted reg.

But I think we will pay. I'm sure it is the right thing to do.

She has the CRB and the ofsted reg. But she's confused about what to do next.

Another family she works for do all their stuff through a nanny tax agency and she is regd with a nanny agency and everyone seems to be telling her something different.

Anyway, i am hoping she'll just go for the online electronic transfer thing.
paper voucher just seems mad tbh.

I'll try to register her and just get on with it i think.
If the other families want to help out re the money to reg then fair enough.
She's a star and very reliable so i want to keep the whole good will going.

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Rinkadink · 24/04/2009 21:32

My agency mentioned to me the other day that if employers pay for the Ofsted registration, they can request that if the nanny leaves their employment before a year has passed, the nanny will reimburse the fee, as it has made the nanny more employable at the expense of the employer.

nannynick · 24/04/2009 21:44

Your nanny doesn't get a choice in to how they get paid the money from the childcare vouchers. That is something that you and your employer sort out - it will vary depending on the contracts your employer has with the voucher provider.

Sounds to me as though she has already paid the Ofsted registration fee. As you only use her for 9 hours a week, I agree that paying the full amount is a bit so-so, as it were, but as you say 'shes a star and very reliable' so you want to keep the good will going. Plus being only 9 hours, it is quite easy for her to dump you in preference to a full-time job, so keeping her happy is even more important.

To proceed just contact your voucher provider and ask for the carer registration form. Some voucher companies will do that on-line, while others will do a paper based form. Your nanny then completes the form, sends copies of paperwork required and the voucher company will then issue them with a provider reference number of some kind. Then you just tell the voucher company the provider reference number and the rest should sort itself.

Rinkadink · 25/04/2009 08:22

Or rather, I meant to say a pro-rata amount of the Ofsted fee to be reimbursed if it is the nanny's choice to leave the position. So, if the nanny leaves after 9 months, then she would be expected to reimburse the parents for the remaining 3 months of the year, therefore 1/4 of the Ofsted fee, therefore £27.

Hope this makes sense. I think it's quite a good idea, and won't leave the parents feeling like they've been stung. The parents benefit from registering the nanny, but the benefit the nanny gets is that it makes her more attractive to potential new employers!

oopsagain · 25/04/2009 09:07

the reimbursement makes sense.

She studies and in te ed will becaome a personal trainer soon.

But she has promised to carry on with us as and i have no reason not to believe her
She has been so helpful moving her timings around for us in the last few months when I've been ill and not working the usual hours.

I expect in the long run it'll just be us who will pay the ofsted.

But it'll be ok in the long run.

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itfcbabe · 25/04/2009 21:01

i have a nanny who is currently going through the process of being ofsted registered so i can get tax credits.

i have said for her to pay and i will pay her back if she is still here in 6 months.

this is because if i pay and then she leaves she has that to take with her and i am out over £100 and then have to start again with another nanny.

fairimum · 26/04/2009 08:28

As a nanny the fmaily I work for paid!

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